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He must have "some tricks up his sleeve" to counteract that

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I mame is my Achilles heal. I understand changing the xml but not sure on other steps.

Guessing I set parents only in HyperHQ anything else?

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He must have "some tricks up his sleeve" to counteract that

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I mame is my Achilles heal. I understand changing the xml but not sure on other steps.

Guessing I set parents only in HyperHQ anything else?

I'll let Metalzoic chime in for a better tutorial (if he chooses), but for me when I edit the MAME XML in Don's HyperSpin Tools-Filter HyperLists, one of the things I edit out is the clones, so no need to check "Parents Only" in HyperHQ.

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Metalzoic makes a few adjustments to one of phulshof's 300000000 different filtered mame xmls which are updated with each version. You can find the xmls in post 11 and what Metal does in post 15 here.

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Metalzoic makes a few adjustments to one of phulshof's 300000000 different filtered mame xmls which are updated with each version. You can find the xmls in post 11 and what Metal does in post 15 here.

Thanks I come from there to here. It's the "other little clean ups" bit that makes really want metal to upload one of his versions to the database section of upload here.

Official request Metalzoic. If you get a chance .

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Ha!

Yeah. I start with Phulsofs no Mature, No Casino, No utilities, No electromechanical, no mahjong, no quiz

Then I strip away the rest of the casino & mahjong games still hidden.

Then I strip away nearly all the tabletop/boardgame stuff.

Then I strip out the Shogi Go stuff that's left over.

Then I remove all the bartop games like Megatouch etc...

Then I pull some of the crap protos and bootlegs.

I fix the screwed up genre soccer game (Phulsof will jhave this fixed in 176)

I un-clone most of the good clones listed in this topic

Unclone the 2P version of 4+P games

Fix/unclone the 2 Zero Team games

Un-clone the 2 extra Neo Geo games

I leave all the clones and simply filter them out in HyperHQ. That way I don't lose access to any of them if it turns out I want them.

 

...and I think that's it.

After that I went through every single 4p game I listed and changed the settings or dipswitches so they play correctly 2P.

Then I split that cleaned DB into all the Manufacturer wheels I use, then I split them all out with genres.

 

So nothing special really. Here's my current database if you want.

MAME.xml

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exactly, I'm adding this as a genre... Attack of the clones

 

I see what you did there

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My MAME XML has a lot of crazy customizations, which makes updating a really cumbersome process. To solve this once and for all, I just worked with a developer on Upwork.com to create a simple app that will take all the headache out of maintaining parent / clone customizations like this. 

 

The app is pretty simple. It takes an input list of Parent roms that you'd like to remove and an input list of the Clones that you'd like to convert to Parents. Then it goes through and updates ALL your databases, including Genres etc. 

 

I'm still working the kinks out, but if anyone would like to test before I share it with the community, shoot me a PM. 

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My MAME XML has a lot of crazy customizations, which makes updating a really cumbersome process. To solve this once and for all, I just worked with a developer on Upwork.com to create a simple app that will take all the headache out of maintaining parent / clone customizations like this. 

 

The app is pretty simple. It takes an input list of Parent roms that you'd like to remove and an input list of the Clones that you'd like to convert to Parents. Then it goes through and updates ALL your databases, including Genres etc. 

 

I'm still working the kinks out, but if anyone would like to test before I share it with the community, shoot me a PM. 

 

That sounds cool. I'd definitely be interested in something like that.

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Yep. What I have been doing is I copy all customizations as I make them in a single xml and act like its a genre but I don't include them as a genre. Then when I update I just paste the info from the xml into the main one and make a genre for attack of the clones that aren't really labeled clones but look like parent if that makes sense

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Pulling this up from the depths so people can find it.

If anyone knows of any games that should be added/altered please chime in.

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https://github.com/superjamie/lazyweb/wiki/MAME-Clones-Worth-Playing
So I was looking through trying to find others and came across your exact list somewhere else....

 

It says references at the bottom, but it's the entire list with the comments! Wow...

Ha! That's fine, he linked to this topic at the bottom and I got most of the info in here on the 2/4 player games from a post on a MAME site and the original topic like this.

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Someone reminded me I made this thread so I thought I'd bump it up for others to use.

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Hey guys,

I updated MAME to ver .179 and saw that Metalzoic's custom 7001 title xml for ver 175 left me with about 39 red titles in RL. I found about the same if I started from scratch with the dropbox semi official .179 files/filters. So I went through everything and am happy to share my findings and new files:

I created a new MAME xml for current ver .179 starting with:

mame_no_casino_mahjong_quiz_electro_utilities_playchoice.xml

[keeping the mature games]

-NON WORKING is automatic filtered out in these xmls
-MECHANICAL is mostly if not ALL automatically removed under 'electromechanical'

Leaving IN clones (I filter out Clones in HyperHQ)

Metalzoic's last xml for ver .175 was 7001 titles, while my ver .179 has  7609 (the 600+ game count difference is almost 100% comprised of the mature games which I leave in)

Then I incorporated all of the clones from the top of this thread (the good clones are uncloned).

 

Two additions you may or may not wish to cut:

- Finally I also UNCLONED After Burner as I consider parts 1 and 2 two different games.

- I added the three 'Strider 2' titles as though it is marked as NON-WORKING, I play it perfectly (it may crash late in the game).. life without Strider 2 is no life for me. :) 

 

Notes:

- Though Mahjong games are excluded, happily for me by default Shanghai games are left in which I was a fan of on Sega Master System so I'm happy for the arcade ports.

- The two Neo Geo titles mentioned are included by default and I did not need to add them.

Now RL shows a complete .179 set as missing 41 titles, but they should work fine in HS regardless as they are either built in to a parent like 'breakout' or clones that will be filtered out anyway.

 

This is totally unofficial so my xml is available by PM only.  right here and right now. ;)

Mame.xml

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Yes, not everything has to be Official.....

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Ok, ok - my arm is officially twisted. I included it now in the post above. I was just being careful not to post too many xmls to confuse the scene. Please do let me know how you like it and if you agree with the choices.

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