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Problem with Daemon Tools and PC Engine-CD, Also Saturn


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Perhaps I made a mistake putting this in General rather than Support.  My apologies if this is the case.

My main hard drive had a Windows disaster and I had to run recovery software to jump ship to a new drive.  Going through my HS systems to check for consistency has been the current project and PC Engine CD -refuses- to mount the disc for Magic Engine in Daemon Tools Lite 10.6.  SCSI, no SCSI, add drive, don't add drive, it will.  not.  work.  ...But Turbografx-CD does.  It works perfectly, mounts discs all the bloody -live-long-day.  I imported the pce.ini from one Magic Engine directory to the PCECD one, and it ignores it.  Doesn't work.  Brand new ini?  Doesn't work.  I set it manually?  Doesn't work.  Every time it's right to the music player in Magic Engine.  I even tried manually setting the CD drive in Hyperlaunch HQ.  Nothing.  Blank stares.

This was absolutely working before, mind you.  Something changed with PCECD that did not change with TurboCD, but I can't work out what.  If a file got corrupted in the copy process wouldn't there be a different error than "TOC Drive Not Ready?"  And if TCD works, why wouldn't PCECD work with the same ini?  Hell, TCD works no matter -what- my settings are for SCSI/Add Drive in D-Tools.

I have been -extremely- frustrated with this for going on two days.  Earlier I spent an hour fruitlessly trying to get PCECD to run in Mednafen because TurboCD runs great there too.  It wouldn't.  I'd run it through Hyperspin and it would act like it was starting, hang with no error or any activity, and dump right back to the Hyper wheel.  Now ten minutes ago, again with ZERO CHANGE AT ALL, it works.  I need someone to make this make sense to me because the logic vacuum is making me feel violence well up in me.

Sega Saturn, by the way, is broken too.  Nothing I do, absolutely nothing, makes that bloody Daemon Tools mount the stupid disc.  I can point the emulator and the ini to the virtual drive until I'm blue in the face.  Also there's no alternate setup for Saturn like Mednafen or Retroarch, so I REALLY need help on that.

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Out of curiosity I popped back onto my Windows 7 boot and Magic Engine works perfectly to mount PCECD.  Sega Saturn mounts and works as intended too; something is _deeply_ mucked up on my Windows 10.  I've had a go with probably six different setups of Daemon Tools over there and every one of them either doesn't install whatsoever, whinges about SPTD upon attempt to use, or mounts nothing in the virtual drive.

I'm close to reformatting the Windows 10 boot.  Or just staying with 7 until I get my new rig next winter.

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I would focus on using emulators that dont need a virtual drive. I had nothing but problems with win 10 and virtual drives. I use retroarch mednafen cores for all systems you list instead. I was a former magic engine and sff user. Everything I had worked great on win 7 but win 10 not so much. Good luck.

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I did try Retroarch for the two NEC CD systems and couldn't seem to get it past the Bios check for Syscard3.  It's in Retroarch/System where it seems to belong but the problem persists.  Also Saturn in Hyperspin doesn't support Retroarch as an emulator, unless I have the wrong settings.

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More reasons to switch to RL, apparently.  I need to stop dragging my feet.  I keep feeling paranoid I might lose all my work in the transition even though from what I've read that isn't an issue.

Didn't know Mednafen had Saturn support, I'll have to look into that.  The less mucking about with Daemon Tools the better, generally.

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Okay, what in -the- bloody hell is up with Daemon Tools this last couple days.  I haven't switched to Rocketlauncher yet, but I have DTLite 10.2 which is the version we're all meant to have..only now, no matter what I try to do with it, "unknown switch in command line."  This has never happened to me on any version of DTLite and I can't find any real solution.  If I bypass the three error popups it loads the emulator but obviously hasn't mounted the disc.  Sega Saturn has the same issue (and as previously stated I can't get Retroarch working, and even if I did I'd have to go to Rocket to make that one usable.)

Also a 'switch syntax' error upon closing the emulation attempt down.  This happened with 10.2, 10.3, 10.6, and both of the older versions of DTLite I tried.  Something is really weird here and I want to sort it out..not even just for Hyperspin anymore, I need to fix this in general.  This is happening on a brand new reformat of Windows 10.

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Aaaaand for whatever reason this latest version of Daemon I tried works.  Works flawlessly on everything I throw at it, like it's meant.  SSF needed several pokes to get the CD mount to actually take, but I'm back to normal on this.

NO idea why DTLite 10.2 wants to treat me so badly, but I no longer need to care.  I can still explore the transition to Rocketlauncher rather than Hyperlaunch and I can give Retroarch more room in my setup.. I recently discovered how much I liked RA for Android-based emulation so I'm up for some via Hyperspin.

Thanks to anyone who posted, sorry I came off as being so overwhelmingly frustrated.  Cheers.

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