Joytokey xpadder navigating hyperspin menu

[defre1976]

Next problem , And i can't find the solution

2 pc games , i set up joytokey for navigating trought hypespin with xbox 360 controller .

Everthing works fine .

But if i start up a pc game and i exit this game , my xbox 360 controller don't work anymore .

I started hyperspin in window , and when i exit the game , i see that joytokey just closes . I had just the same problem with xpadder .

I associated hyperspin in Joytokey , i added hyperspin.exe in HyperHQ to start up auto . But joytokey keeps closing after i exit a pc game in hyperspin .

Am i missing something in the settings ??

[Spawk]

Next problem , And i can't find the solution
2 pc games , i set up joytokey for navigating trought hypespin with xbox 360 controller .
Everthing works fine .
But if i start up a pc game and i exit this game , my xbox 360 controller don't work anymore .
I started hyperspin in window , and when i exit the game , i see that joytokey just closes . I had just the same problem with xpadder .
I associated hyperspin in Joytokey , i added hyperspin.exe in HyperHQ to start up auto . But joytokey keeps closing after i exit a pc game in hyperspin .
Am i missing something in the settings ??

Hi defre1976, setting up a smooth control scheme can be tricky. This is done best by setting joytokey (what i use but xpadder is same) up through RocketLauncher.

The basic premise is that you need "profiles" for every aspect (each system / each game if pc / HS menu / RL menu) This can all be done outside of RL but if you miss one profile like the HS menu then it won't load when you exit a game!

I do have a tutorial here on site for JTK. Have a look at it and things should be clearer.

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[defre1976]

Thank you for the help .

Could you give any direction where to find the  tutorial ? I found another topic with the same problem where you also helped . Will read this tommorrow .

And if this is tricky its already several houres i am finding the problem why JTK closes after exit a game .

 

 

[defre1976]

Ok i found the tutorial . Will check this tom.

[defre1976]

Oké , i think it was working all the time , Test with emulators and works fine . but i was always trying with a pc game . And there it is still not working .

For example i was always trying with monacoGp.exe remake . When i exit this game joytokey just closes . Is there another tutorial how to set Joytokey up up with pc games . Also tried with the new killer instinct and just the same .

Aaaaaand i have again another problem , in menu i can go back with the back button 3 and 4 , but i don't get my exit Yes / No menu anymore .

And Exit menu is 100% enabled HyperHQ ???? I really don't understand .

[Spawk]

Oké , i think it was working all the time , Test with emulators and works fine . but i was always trying with a pc game . And there it is still not working .
For example i was always trying with monacoGp.exe remake . When i exit this game joytokey just closes . Is there another tutorial how to set Joytokey up up with pc games . Also tried with the new killer instinct and just the same .
Aaaaaand i have again another problem , in menu i can go back with the back button 3 and 4 , but i don't get my exit Yes / No menu anymore .
And Exit menu is 100% enabled HyperHQ ???? I really don't understand .

See this is why I say it is tricky. Everyone seems to run into their own little issues depending on their own setup. Do you use Windows 10? I hear some people have issues with the settings in hq and they have to change in the ini file directly.

As for JTK closing, all profile switching should be done by RL. So create all profiles directly in RL. PC games will need a profile for every game in your PC database named exactly like it is.

Also make sure the "start JTK minimized" is checked so that PC like exit commands (esc, alt q, alt f4?) Don't get passed to JTK.

No controls need to be set in HQ. As long as there is a Hyperspin profile under GLOBAL in RL then it should load whenever you exit any game.

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[defre1976]

[Main]
Menu_Mode=multi
Single_Mode_Name=MAME
Enable_Exit_Menu=true
Enable_Exit=false
Exit_Default=yes
Exit_Action=exit
Version=1.0.0.0
Last_System=PC Games
Hyperlaunch_Path=D:\Hyperspin Rocketlauncher\RocketLauncher\RocketLauncher.exe

 

This are my settings from hypersin . Enable exit menu is on True . And still i don't get to see my menu anymore . Yesterday it was still working . But after messing around with joytokey and so it don't work anymore.

Yes i use windows 10

exit in Hyperhq is set on numpad 1 and 2 . And in Joytokey i gave button 3 and 4 on my xbox 360 controller . And its working . i can select an emulator and go back untill the main menu . And there i am stuck . When i push there button 3 and 4 to exit hyperspin . No Menu Yes or No ???

I took some printscreens from my settings , maybe you see something wrong in my settings 

 

[Spawk]

[Main]
Menu_Mode=multi
Single_Mode_Name=MAME
Enable_Exit_Menu=true
Enable_Exit=false
Exit_Default=yes
Exit_Action=exit
Version=1.0.0.0
Last_System=PC Games
Hyperlaunch_Path=D:\Hyperspin Rocketlauncher\RocketLauncher\RocketLauncher.exe
 
This are my settings from hypersin . Enable exit menu is on True . And still i don't get to see my menu anymore . Yesterday it was still working . But after messing around with joytokey and so it don't work anymore.
Yes i use windows 10
exit in Hyperhq is set on numpad 1 and 2 . And in Joytokey i gave button 3 and 4 on my xbox 360 controller . And its working . i can select an emulator and go back untill the main menu . And there i am stuck . When i push there button 3 and 4 to exit hyperspin . No Menu Yes or No ???
I took some printscreens from my settings , maybe you see something wrong in my settings 
 

Line 4:
"Enable_Exit=false"

Set to true will fix your exit issue. Line 3 is just if you want it to exit immediately on button push or pop up a menu first.

I am on my phone right now but I will look at those pics better later. Have no fear I will get fixed up. :-)


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[defre1976]

its fixed . thank you for the help .

Now i must get that jtk problem fixed with the pc games .

 

[defre1976]

i still can not manage to get this problem fixed .

I created a profile for monaco gp . In this JTK config i used the same control settings as for Hyperspin ??

You see its the same name as in the database .

I must say the game runs fine with xbox 360 controllers .No need for JTK config for the game itself .  Its just when i exit the game , JTK closes in Hyperspin .

Need to do it for killer instinct and mortal kombat also

[defre1976]

Oh but wait one time . is it not here that i must put Joytokey.exe ???

[Spawk]

Oh but wait one time . is it not here that i must put Joytokey.exe ???

No that's wrong spot

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[Spawk]

No that's wrong spot

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I usually don't mess with the ahk stuff. Stay in the "keymapper" tab.

I am at work for another 2 hrs sorry for the late reply

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[defre1976]

Really no problem take your time.  I am from belgium and must almost sleep. Tom work . 

 

Thx for the help

[Spawk]

6 hours ago, defre1976 said:

i still can not manage to get this problem fixed .

I created a profile for monaco gp . In this JTK config i used the same control settings as for Hyperspin ??

You see its the same name as in the database .

I must say the game runs fine with xbox 360 controllers .No need for JTK config for the game itself .  Its just when i exit the game , JTK closes in Hyperspin .

 

If the game's controls already all work, then simply leave the profile completely blank. You still need it to load though so the HS profile isn't loaded while you are playing the game.

I don't see how exiting a game has any effect on JTK. Not sure what's causing that...

In this pic:

The Exit Emulator Key should be "~Esc" (no quotes). You then can use JTK to emulate an Esc press in the profiles of the systems if you need to... but here is GLOBAL so those button presses will close stuff anytime on all systems!

On a side note:

One thing I started doing that's not in the tutorial is removing the loading of JTK from HQ and simply putting a shortcut to it in my Windows start-up folder. It is a super small program so having it loaded all the time is no big deal. If you go this route though, you have to create a BLANK default profile in JTK (not in RL). that loads so the HS profile you created earlier isn't loaded before you even start HS. Hope that makes sense! Having JTK loaded and minimized in the tray before you even start HS may stop whatever seems to be closing it??? Try switching the exit key first maybe.

[defre1976]

Ok thx . Will try to change exit emulator button. But this exit button can direct be set with the controller. Could this really be the problem. Will try it this evening.

About starting jtk immidiataly with windows i was also thinking about it.

Will also try this.

Thats my frustration because it works with emulators but ot with pc games. Because i try already everything. Als leaving keymapper in pc games blank. But still no luck.

With this i am already 3 , 4 evenings to get it to work while it was always working with the emulators. 

But now i am also thinking this could be the problem with the exit emulator button.

You don't have any problems with pc games?

 

[Guest hellsing001]

Hi, running Joy2key is a pain. My solution was to set up a Hyperspin file in Joy2key with the following (xbox360 pad).

Up - Yellow button - map to Number 8 on keypad in HyperHQ

Down - Green - map to Number 2 on keypad in HyperHQ

Forward - Left Trigger - map to Number 4 on keypad in HyperHQ

Back - Right Trigger - map to Number 6 on keypad in HyperHQ

Enter - Select button - map to ctrl in HyperHQ

Exit - Top right trigger - Escape in HyperHQ

Each to their own - just make sure you start joy2key before running Hyperspin. Also escape should not close Joy2key, you have to manually close it.

hellsing001

 

[Spawk]

Ok thx . Will try to change exit emulator button. But this exit button can direct be set with the controller. Could this really be the problem. Will try it this evening.
About starting jtk immidiataly with windows i was also thinking about it.
Will also try this.
Thats my frustration because it works with emulators but ot with pc games. Because i try already everything. Als leaving keymapper in pc games blank. But still no luck.
With this i am already 3 , 4 evenings to get it to work while it was always working with the emulators. 
But now i am also thinking this could be the problem with the exit emulator button.
You don't have any problems with pc games?
 

Does that mean joystick 3 button 4? If that button is not used on any system for any game then I actually don't see it being the cause...

but I do know most emulators expect esc. Also it is advised to always exit pc games naturally... No quick kill methods.

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[Spawk]

Hi, running Joy2key is a pain. My solution was to set up a Hyperspin file in Joy2key with the following (xbox360 pad).
Up - Yellow button - map to Number 8 on keypad in HyperHQ
Down - Green - map to Number 2 on keypad in HyperHQ
Forward - Left Trigger - map to Number 4 on keypad in HyperHQ
Back - Right Trigger - map to Number 6 on keypad in HyperHQ
Enter - Select button - map to ctrl in HyperHQ
Exit - Top right trigger - Escape in HyperHQ
Each to their own - just make sure you start joy2key before running Hyperspin. Also escape should not close Joy2key, you have to manually close it.
hellsing001
 

Yeah I mentioned in my first post that you could do all this outside RL.

For PC games specifically, it is advantageous to properly integrate with RL... imo. Some games don't include gamepad support, some have many games inside one launcher making it all but impossible to "associate" more than 1 game to that exe in JTK.

I don't know exactly what the OPs games are or are going to include but I always try to get people properly set up so future additions go easy. At the same time, I wouldn't blame him for going this route either. HS is finicky as all hell... 1 little option set wrong can wreak havoc on your system lol.

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[defre1976]

i change exit emulator to ~Esc . But don't give any effect . JTK just closes exit a pc game . why oooh why .

Will try it again with Xpadder . But was just the same problem before . Also xpadder close jtk after exit pc game .

What i also want to say is that i exit pc game like other pc game , MonacoGP is just with escape , that i changed to F1 .

After doing this JTK don't work anymore in Hyperspin.

Killer instinct and mortal kombat xl i just go to the exit button . But here also JTK closes going back to hyperspin

[Guest hellsing001]

Its virtually impossible to have a single joystick able to play, exit then restart all emu and games because they all act differently and have keyboard shortcuts.

For example the snes, genesis and nes all escape OK but project64 doesn't exit when escape is pressed and you need to use Alt - F4

Some things just have to be started in windows.

[Guest hellsing001]

Joy2key doesn't work with hyperspin - you run it before starting Hyperspin - you should have setup you keyboard presses to match in HyperHQ - controls.

Exiting Hyperpsin has not affect on Joy2key.

[Spawk]

Its virtually impossible to have a single joystick able to play, exit then restart all emu and games because they all act differently and have keyboard shortcuts.
For example the snes, genesis and nes all escape OK but project64 doesn't exit when escape is pressed and you need to use Alt - F4
Some things just have to be started in windows.

This is completely false. RL knows how to exit every system... esc just tells RL when to close said program. Yes it is possible to have a single joystick do everything.

The OP needs to figure out what is closing JTK when games close.

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[Spawk]

i change exit emulator to ~Esc . But don't give any effect . JTK just closes exit a pc game . why oooh why .
Will try it again with Xpadder . But was just the same problem before . Also xpadder close jtk after exit pc game .
What i also want to say is that i exit pc game like other pc game , MonacoGP is just with escape , that i changed to F1 .
After doing this JTK don't work anymore in Hyperspin.
Killer instinct and mortal kombat xl i just go to the exit button . But here also JTK closes going back to hyperspin

To ensure it is not HS/RL doing the closing, open JTK and play a PC game (not through HS/RL). After you exit does it close?

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[defre1976]

pfffffffffff xpadder just the same , what is killing the mappers to close . I am about to give up hyperspin for this .