maxxsinner Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Well my pinball cabinet may be a little while off being built but there is no reason for not starting with what I have. A little practice what you preach here. Edited April 20, 2011 by maxxsinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazz Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Damn that is freaking CLEAN! I can only wish that my wiring will come out like that. I got your message about the final draft of the tutorial. I'm not going to have have a chance to look at it until this weekend sometime. I'll check it out as soon as I get an opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 that's a nice wiring, awesome! I think you are good in soldering, so you can strengthen/disburden the current/power connection on the ledwiz a bit with 4 extra wires: and finally put some heatsinks on the 4 driver chips (they get pretty hot @ load) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Damn that is freaking CLEAN! I can only wish that my wiring will come out like that. I got your message about the final draft of the tutorial. I'm not going to have have a chance to look at it until this weekend sometime. I'll check it out as soon as I get an opportunity. Thanks Dazz. After my guide if I didn't get it right I would have been flamed to death! lol. Appreciate you looking over the guide. Sent BBB a message to chuck it up as a sticky as he suggested. that's a nice wiring, awesome!I think you are good in soldering, so you can strengthen/disburden the current/power connection on the ledwiz a bit with 4 extra wires: Holly shawshank redemption Chris! So its putting a parallel path for 12 volts to the common on the driver chips. How did you work that one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 the idea comes from wolfsoft's blog: http://wolfsoft.de/wordpress/?p=986 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Thanks for putting me on his blog. Got some reading to do now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Picked up a couple of wiper motors to play with. One on the left is perfect. Noisy enough to be heard outside the cab, I assume and robust. The other, not so sure yet as its a little quiet for my liking. I have two as my brother and I are both doing cabinets at the same time. Wired all of my Crees up this afternoon. Found some easy push pin connectors to make life a little easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gstav Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 uuh! Nice connectors! I had screw terminals = not that fun if you have to remove all the leds later. Neat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazz Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 So, what function do wiper motors have? Also, have any US people found suitable contactors to replace the Siemans that we can't get anywhere in the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 The wiper motors Dazz, is another great idea from Chris's thread. Having a real motor to produce the sound for some of the mechanical motions in the game. m6Y99Ukn55A Video from Chris's Youtube channel. And my apologies as I did say I was going to get back to you about the contactors. My supplier said that he could not source any US brands as they are totally different to Aus so he couldnt even get me part numbers, although any DC coil types will work from anywhere in the world. Do you know of any electrical wholesale suppliers near where you live? If you can ring them and tell them you want prices on 12 volt DC coil contactors, you might have better luck but I think you will find them to be all around the $60 plus mark. Let us know how you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samou812 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 (edited) So, what function do wiper motors have?Also, have any US people found suitable contactors to replace the Siemans that we can't get anywhere in the US? Dazz, I am using the Siemens 24v contactors . I picked them up on ebay for $15 each. I am driving them with a 24v power supply that ran me about $40. ~Sam Edited April 15, 2011 by bent98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwjrabbit Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Dazz,I am using the Siemens 24v contactors . I picked them up on ebay for $15 each. I am driving them with a 24v power supply that ran me about $40. ~Sam Is anyone using car solenoids? I know Hacker used some of those before the contactor rage started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) Well my pinball cabinet may be a little while off being built but there is no reason for not starting with what I have. A little practice what you preach here. That takes the piss!!! Maxxsinner, regarding the inline fuses im using, do you still need to use them for componets that also need a relay like the strobe and gear motor., and does it matter where they are placed in the circuit, as at the moment i have them screwd to the 12v screw terminal of the PSU? Edited April 16, 2011 by lettuce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numiah Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 You can always put extra fuses on lead wires that feed components. Keep in mind that two fuses on one wire would be useless though and don't add extra safety. Always as close as possible to the powersource so that in case of a short the complete wire is always fused. If you'd put it on the other end and there would be a short between the PSU and the fuse, you will still have problems. However.... keep in mind that most PSU's aready have their own protection circuits and/or fuses. Take a good look on how many amps you need on a fuse, especially with motors. Motors tend to 'spike' when starting up. Go to low and you blow it each time you start the engine. To high and it will do little to nothing to protect your wiring. I've seen guys fuse a really thin wire with a 10A fuse. In that case the wire becomes the 'burning' fuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) I've seen guys fuse a really thin wire with a 10A fuse. In that case the wire becomes the 'burning' fuse I have seen a length of 2.5 mm wire glow red and burst into flames without the correct fuse. When the wire becomes the fuse.... so not cool. Edited April 16, 2011 by maxxsinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Thanks for the reply Numiah, yeah as u can see from the photo i have the inline fuse wire attached straight to the screw terminal of my PSU, im using a 4A fuse in them by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Looks sweet to me lettuce. protecting the wire and the component with what your doing. the relay is just a switch and offers no protection to the power supply from an electrical fault. Numiah's comments were spot on IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 actually just check and the inline fuse if 2.5a, hasnt blown yet so i guess its not at a too low rating!! Need to get some more for my strobe though so that might be the real test I got these ones from ebay a pack of 5... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250803626571 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 If your putting them inline with the mains voltage of your strobe lettuce, just make sure you turn the power off at the wall, or disconnect your machine before installing or changing the fuse. Sorry if I am stating the obvious but with the mains voltage side of things, I did 4 years of training to ensure I didn't get hurt and want to ensure no one gets a boot off mains while I am dishing out advice on here. Still get this nervous twitch down my left side after last time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numiah Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 lol yeah, a good zap with 220v will shake your bones. I had to endure several in my young days as a kid lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxxsinner Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 It's funny numiah that you can get used to that kind of voltage. Now it only tingles when I pee.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 If your putting them inline with the mains voltage of your strobe lettuce, just make sure you turn the power off at the wall, or disconnect your machine before installing or changing the fuse. Sorry if I am stating the obvious but with the mains voltage side of things, I did 4 years of training to ensure I didn't get hurt and want to ensure no one gets a boot off mains while I am dishing out advice on here.Still get this nervous twitch down my left side after last time... lol, i wont be adding the inline fuse to the strobe mains as it has a fuse on the plug already so need fo it that side. What i will do is add an inline fuse between my 12v psu and the relay that connects to the strobe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bladex Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 i don't understand the diagram on making buttons lit. how do you connect to to an ipac and make them lit as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 there are separate contacts (sideways) for illumination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bladex Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 yeah but how do you connect it to a power supply in the diagram it looks like your supposed to weld it onto the back?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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