slaapzak Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Hello Guys, My name is Roy and i am 28years old and live in Spijkenisse (The Netherlands) About 4months ago i cross ago a youtube movie about a virtual pinball machine. When i was a kid my dad owned some orignal pinballs and it didnt took long for me to get a itchty feeling to create a virtual pinball. I read alot of topics on this forum and decided that i wanted a wide body pinball. So the quest started to find a original wide cabinet. After a month i came in contact with some 1 in Belgium who had a demolition man cabinet for sale. I drove up and took the whole thing with me . Making a long story short enjoy the first pics of my cabinet and i will post later on the progress i made. Monitors: (In the near future) 46" inch monitor LED (most certain to be a samsung) 32" inch monitor LED for Backglass (Still no clue what kind) 19" inch monitor Dell 1908 FPC for DMD (This until i can get my hands on a original DMD) PC Configuration: Intel i5-2500K Quad Core Processor 4Ghz Overlocked Maind Board Asus (will post details later) 2 x 4GB Ram Crosair Dominator DDR3 1600 CPU Cooler Stock HDD Kingston 120GB SSD GIGABYTE GForce GV-GTX660OC-2GD 2gigs of mem (Playfield & DMD) GIGABYTE GForce GV-N630-2GI for the (Backglass) (in order) Original Cabinet Demolition Man Restoring the cabinet. Cabinet Configuration: (as is now) Original side rails Original Lockbar Original Coin door (have to replace the lock) Original Legs Repro Williams Speaker Panel Electronics: 1 x I-Pac-2 Williams knocker Williams Tilt sensor Wolfsoft shaker motor. (thnx to my brother ) Wolfsoft ledwiz (the modded 1 ) (in order) Wolfsoft dual-h bridge (in order) Gear motor thinking about using a daihatsu wiper motor. Pindmd2 Artwork: Will be custom made by my brother. Here are some pics when i bought the cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mameman Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 great start, pity to kill that original artwork, looks really nice ;( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 it look nice on the pics but there were cracks and scrapes on the vinyl else i would kept the original artwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTPPC Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Those scrapes and scuffs are the battle scars of a real cabinet. I simply consider that a "patina". It provides character to something that has been out in the world as opposed to some sterile new creation that has only had a few hands on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mameman Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 lol, had you been local to me, I would have probably traded you out for a new cabinet. like MTPPC says, you can't beat some character Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 haha you got a point indeed. i am going to bet you that it will look greater than the original Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 *update* I recieved the shaker motor only waiting for the toys to power it. Also recived a Gigabyte gtx660 with 2 gigs of ram. From my dad i got alot of contactors and relays. Going to try different contactors which simulate different sounds. Also still working on the pinball case which needs alot of attention, maybe ill go to a body shop to fix the case cause it takes alot of my time. Also collecting some toy figures for the topper Some pics while dis-assembling the pinball More pics will be uploaded soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Update. Finished the lower cabinet, all the gaps and holes are finished. the corners were in terrible shape and they had to be re-done. Thanks to www.hoewijk.nl for doing a beautifull job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Also got my hands on a DMD out of a lord of the rings pinball machine. Does any1 know if that display will work with the pin2dmd module? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowter Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Yes, it will probably work. But it will need some special hardware to provide the needed voltages. check vpforums: someone (in USA) is selling the 80&100v transformers you will need, you will also need a DMD power board (i believe zebulon is workin on providing those) edit: if that is too much hassle, then just sell the display, and buy a new 5v or 12v DMD display: these are plug and play. cost range from 199 euro for a pinled display, to 400 euro for a vishay plasma with onboard powersupply: http://nl.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Dale/APD128G0320A00G01/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMvkC18yXH9iIurp2WUOVpc7dGksEUtLyZo%3d from the datasheet: -very affordable:rofl: edit2: can you describe how you re-set the corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 hmm i think i need to wait till the display is in on how to power it. i didnt think about that it needs different voltages. is ther a schematic for real dmd displays or something like that? for the corners: the wood of the corners were pretty damaged. the guy which repaired it fixed it by removing some of the damaged wood and filled it with a viber filler than sand it and filled it with a special filler to smooth the edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowter Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 hmm i think i need to wait till the display is in on how to power it. i didnt think about that it needs different voltages. is ther a schematic for real dmd displays or something like that? all the info you need is here: http://www.vpforums.org/index.php?showtopic=23249&page=1 If someone comes up with a european alternative for the transformer&powerboard, that would be awesome. The shipping costs from the US are killing us..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I will have a look at this with some people. i find it strange that we need a transformer and board to output 5v/12v . Will figure it out and test it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 Update time again. today i recieved a cherry dmd is there a way to get this thing working? do i need a powerboard for this display and does pindmd support this display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowter Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 cherry dmd's do NOT work with pinDMD1, noone so far has tried them on the pinDMD2. But unless you have a (extremely rare) 12v cherry display, you will first have to face the problem of powering the thing....... If you come up with a solution that is easily available in NL, then please let us know. And if it does work with the pinDMD2, then great, also let us know (i also have a spare cherry display lying around). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted July 18, 2013 Author Share Posted July 18, 2013 i have ordered a pindmd2 and will find a power board to power the screen. if it works with pindmd2 than i will change the power supply board for a compatible 1. will take some time but i think it will work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted August 9, 2013 Author Share Posted August 9, 2013 The pindmd2 is in now i need to power the dmd. i got 2 weeks off from work so i hope to give a update in 2 weeks i got a few things i want to do in the 2 weeks 1. paint the lower body 2. fix the upper body 3. install the buttons. 4. test the contactors. 5. install the motherboard with ipac2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 I was wondering does any1 used a real pinball flipper mechanism from a real pinball? I have a strange science with an extra playfield. I was thinking about using the flipper mechanism to replicate the flipper sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mameman Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I was wondering does any1 used a real pinball flipper mechanism from a real pinball? I have a strange science with an extra playfield. I was thinking about using the flipper mechanism to replicate the flipper sounds. You could however they run at 50v so risky and exspensive. WWW.Xtremepinball.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 What do you mean with risky and expensive? i do not think that the voltage should be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mameman Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 What do you mean with risky and expensive? i do not think that the voltage should be a problem. A 50v power supply won't be cheap, neither are flipper setups (new), plus the higher voltage is a risk to you and the other sensitive electronics within the Cab. I can't recall anyone else having done it yet so give it a try and be the first. Heck who knows if it turns out great, we all might follow your lead. WWW.Xtremepinball.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 Aah ok i understand. I will have a look at the flipper setup. The expense isnt that much for me since i got the extra playfield with the parts. I'll try to disamble the flipper setup this evening and set up a test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckydogg420 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Why go to all the trouble of a flipper mech? Couldn't you use a coil and end stop, like a replay knocker. A flipper coil is double wound, and has a end of stroke switch that reduces the voltage while you hold the button, so the coil doesn't melt. High voltage to snap the flipper, then low voltage to hold it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zebulon Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Actually its the same voltage, but the seconday winding in the coil has a much higher number of turns to handle the heat better. The EOS switches between the windings. I only mention it so the OP doesn't think he needs a separate power supply for the secondary winding. Same theory though. I'd try it, although I do think its adding to the maintenance of the cab down the road (keeping up on the EOS contacts, coil burn out etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slaapzak Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 @Luckydogg I want to use the whole setup for the most realistic sounds. Only the flipper self i wont use. @zebulon Ofcourse there is maintenance on the coils and contacts but on the other side if the sound is realistic enough then it is worth the maintenance. (i do have alot of spare coils and some contatcs) I also have a set of bumpers on the other playfield, i dont know how the mechanism works but it would be awsome to use them also. PS did you recieved the payment on paypal for the dmd board and speedcontrol board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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