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NEO GEO / SNK NEO GEO --- CONFUSION !


craig816

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Hello,

 

Holy confusion batman!

 

Could someone please explain the different versions of the Neo Geo system?

 

I have seen:

 

1. NEO GEO Arcade (I think Simply Austin did a video on setting this up in Hyperspin using MAME, I'm assuming this is the NEO GEO Arcade games which can be played using MAME).

2. NEO GEO Console

3. NEO GEO MVS

4. NEO GEO AES

5. NE GEO CD

 

I think #2 is just the general term and #3, #4 and #5 are the different home consoles. Were there really 3 different ones?

 

My main question is what emulator do I use that would work with Hyperspin to emulate the NEO GEO HOME Console #3,#4 and #5 ?

Are there different emulators depending on the exact Neo Geo system?

 

Also - are there different game formats for #3, #4 and #5. I think one of them was cartridge based while another was obviously CD.

 

Lastly, I thought I read that the NEO GEO home console games had better graphics and play than the NEO GEO arcade version. (ex. Baseball Stars 2)

 

 

Thanks for any feedback !!!

 

Craig

 

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Each console had slightly different exclusives. Aes had a few Japanese exclusives just do aes or mvs as they are nearly identical. Cd has better music and its own games get that system. Neo Geo arcade is unique get that. Basically just choose between 3 and 4 and get the rest

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NEO GEO AES and MVS are the same, the MVS is the arcade version, the only difference is that it needed coin to operate.

NEO GEO AES system is a wheel dedicated to the console version which you can emulate via MESS using aes.zip bios.

Advantages of playing the NEO GEO AES version compared to the MVS arcade version is that you can change options, language, difficulty, buttons and other stuff, you usually have more modes to play, survival, training, single versus, team versus mode, which usually allow you to always choose another char when you back to the char select screen while the arcade version you're always stuck with your char or your team and there's only one mode to play.

NEO GEO CD, in my case I emulate using Raine32, a nice NEO CD emulator which allow us to disable or speed up the (original) loading times from the CD console, I put the speed to 32X since I love the artwork they put among loading screens, so I can still see them even if it takes now 1 or 2 seconds to load the battle, I believe it's even less than that, the NEO GEO CD has two or three exclusive games which I believe are japanese, it has less games than the AES console, but the ones it has has enhanced sountrack due to the quality CDs have, if you like nice background music and sountrack while you play games, it's a must have.

 

You don't have to have a NEO GEO MVS wheel if you feel you don't need it, in my case, I have a deeply cleaned MAME set, an Arcade Classics which houses less than 400 titles, so in my case, having a wheel for NEO GEO MVS is probably unneeded in most cases.

Aorin

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400 title classics? Do share friend

I said my MAME set, when I cleaned it to keep only what I wanted ended up in around 380 titles, while the full set has over 30.000, LOL, I really cleaned it!

Aorin

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hmmmm, I have a 140 rom set that is all, from my understanding that's all there is, all art and whatnot was based around that as the wheels and box art has also only 140 or am I missing something major here...

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hmmmm, I have a 140 rom set that is all, from my understanding that's all there is, all art and whatnot was based around that as the wheels and box art has also only 140 or am I missing something major here...

 

Yeah. 140 Neo-Geo MVS games. I also run it as my SNK Classics wheel because it doesn't make sense to me to separate them so I have 300ish in my Neo-Geo wheel. Not sure how many Geo CD would add on top of that.

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So another quick question.

 

Is there any difference in a game that NEO GEO made for the arcade vs the console.

 

For example, Baseball Stars 2.

 

I've seen the Baseball Stars 2 arcade rom on mame - would the cartridge based Baseball Stars rom for the console look and play identically to the arcade version?

 

Thanks.

Posted

So another quick question.

 

Is there any difference in a game that NEO GEO made for the arcade vs the console.

 

For example, Baseball Stars 2.

 

I've seen the Baseball Stars 2 arcade rom on mame - would the cartridge based Baseball Stars rom for the console look and play identically to the arcade version?

 

Thanks.

Read my first post again, paying a little more attention this time.

Aorin

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So another quick question.

 

Is there any difference in a game that NEO GEO made for the arcade vs the console.

 

For example, Baseball Stars 2.

 

I've seen the Baseball Stars 2 arcade rom on mame - would the cartridge based Baseball Stars rom for the console look and play identically to the arcade version?

 

Thanks.

 

The Baseball Stars 2 MVS arcade rom in MAME IS the same as the AES Console rom. You simply switch between MVS/AES bios's in the MAME options settings when you hit TAB in-game.

The difference is the bios you load it with (MVS vs AES) the home version won't say "insert coin" for example and maybe have an options menu. That's about it

 

There are maybe a few games that have more substantial differences, but the above is true for 95+% of them.

If you're running an arcade cabinet I'd say keep them switched to the MVS option. If you run your build as a console system keep them switched to the AES version.

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