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CANNOT FIND Scanlines on MAME .150

BlueGoblin

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BlueGoblin

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Hi Everyone,

I am still unable to figure out where I can add scan lines to MAME .150 games.

I am in the config section but I have no idea where it is. Can anyone please shed some light on where I can go and access scan lines for MAME?

Thanks,

Will

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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There should be a setting in HLHQ under "edit Global module settings " to switch it on.

HyperLaunch would then inject that setting into the cfg or ini, where I think you'll find the settings to change the scanlines look.

BlueGoblin Enthusiast

BlueGoblin

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under HyperHQ i am under the main settings under (screen tab) where i enabled it and the scanlines scale is at 2 - scanlines alpha is set at .01

i still see no difference. Suggestions?

Please look at attached file.

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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I said HLHQ (Hyperlaunch HQ) if your using that.

The setting is here. You can change it to true.

post-9524-14287062121_thumb.jpg

The above should be enough to switch it on, but I think the main settings for mame HLSL are in the Mame ini folder.

post-9524-142870621213_thumb.jpg

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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Then you would need to try to do it in the Mame ini folder, see the screen shot in my previous post, I have marked what you need to change.

  • 1 month later...
BlueGoblin Enthusiast

BlueGoblin

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GigaPig

I figured out to to enable the scanlines however the scan lines are only working with the multi wheel portion. I want to be able to have the scanlines work with MAME games only when playing them.

Suggestions?

Alpha17x Newbie

Alpha17x

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Scanlines for MAME need to be enabled within MAME. it's in default game options. you may need to browse to the artwork folder for them. They are not enabled by default.

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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For anyone who needs it here is my Mame.ini. I'd like to thank potts43 for the wonderful hlsl settings. I never really liked it before, until I got these settings.

The paths will be wrong for you, and the only section you need for this, are in this section in the ini " DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS"

I've put the mame.ini in my ftp folder as well. /Upload Here/gigapig/Mame

#
# CORE CONFIGURATION OPTIONS
#
readconfig                1
writeconfig               0

#
# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS
#
rompath                   "E:\MAME 0.152 CHDs;J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\roms"
hashpath                  "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\hash"
samplepath                "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\samples"
artpath                   "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\artwork"
ctrlrpath                 "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\ctrlr"
inipath                   "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\ini"
fontpath                  .
cheatpath                 cheat
crosshairpath             "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\crosshair"
highpath                  dats

#
# CORE OUTPUT DIRECTORY OPTIONS
#
cfg_directory             "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\cfg"
nvram_directory           nvram
memcard_directory         memcard
input_directory           inp
state_directory           sta
snapshot_directory        snap
diff_directory            diff
comment_directory         comments
hiscore_directory         hi
video_directory           video

#
# CORE STATE/PLAYBACK OPTIONS
#
state                     
autosave                  0
playback                  
record                    
mngwrite                  
aviwrite                  
wavwrite                  
snapname                  %g/%i
snapsize                  auto
snapview                  internal
statename                 %g
burnin                    0

#
# CORE PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
autoframeskip             0
frameskip                 0
seconds_to_run            0
throttle                  1
sleep                     0
speed                     1.0
refreshspeed              0

#
# CORE ROTATION OPTIONS
#
rotate                    1
ror                       0
rol                       0
autoror                   0
autorol                   0
flipx                     0
flipy                     0

#
# CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
#
artwork_crop              0
use_backdrops             1
use_overlays              1
use_bezels                1
use_cpanels               1
use_marquees              0

#
# CORE SCREEN OPTIONS
#
brightness                1.0
contrast                  1.0
gamma                     1.0
pause_brightness          0.65
effect                    none
cleanstretch              0

#
# CORE VECTOR OPTIONS
#
antialias                 1
beam                      1.0
flicker                   0

#
# CORE SOUND OPTIONS
#
sound                     1
samplerate                48000
samples                   1
volume                    0
soundsync                 0

#
# CORE INPUT OPTIONS
#
coin_lockout              1
ctrlr                     
mouse                     1
joystick                  1
lightgun                  0
multikeyboard             0
multimouse                1
steadykey                 0
ui_active                 0
offscreen_reload          0
joystick_map              auto
joystick_deadzone         0.3
joystick_saturation       0.85
natural                   0
joystick_contradictory    0
coin_impulse              0

#
# CORE INPUT AUTOMATIC ENABLE OPTIONS
#
paddle_device             mouse
adstick_device            keyboard
pedal_device              keyboard
dial_device               mouse
trackball_device          mouse
lightgun_device           mouse
positional_device         joystick
mouse_device              mouse

#
# CORE DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
log                       0
verbose                   0
update_in_pause           0
debug                     0
debugscript               
debug_internal            0

#
# CORE MISC OPTIONS
#
drc                       1
drc_use_c                 0
bios                      
cheat                     0
skip_gameinfo             0
uifont                    default
ramsize                   
confirm_quit              0
ui_mouse                  0
autoboot_command          
autoboot_delay            2
autoboot_script           
http                      0
http_port                 8080
http_path                 web
hiscore                   1

#
# WINDOWS DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
oslog                     0
watchdog                  0
debugger_font             "Lucida Console"
debugger_font_size        9

#
# WINDOWS PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
priority                  0
multithreading            1
numprocessors             auto
profile                   0
bench                     0

#
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video                     d3d
numscreens                1
window                    0
maximize                  1
keepaspect                1
unevenstretch             1
prescale                  1
waitvsync                 0
syncrefresh               0
menu                      0

#
# DIRECTDRAW-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
hwstretch                 1

#
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
filter                    1

#
# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable               1
hlslpath                  hlsl
hlsl_prescale_x           4
hlsl_prescale_y           5
hlsl_preset               -1
hlsl_write                
hlsl_snap_width           2048
hlsl_snap_height          1536
shadow_mask_alpha         0.12
shadow_mask_texture       crt_slot_mask.png
shadow_mask_x_count       320
shadow_mask_y_count       240
shadow_mask_usize         0.18750
shadow_mask_vsize         0.21875
curvature                 0.09
pincushion                0.120000
scanline_alpha            1.5
scanline_size             0.95
scanline_height           1.0
scanline_bright_scale     1.1
scanline_bright_offset    0.6
scanline_jitter           0.00
defocus                   0.005,0.005
converge_x                0.2,0.0,0.0
converge_y                0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_x         0.2,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y         0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio                 0.85,0.15,0.0
grn_ratio                 -0.1,1.1,0.0
blu_ratio                 -0.075,0.0,1.075
saturation                1.0
offset                    -0.15,-0.18,-0.18
scale                     1.15,1.18,1.18
power                     1.1,0.9,0.7
floor                     0.01,0.0,0.01
phosphor_life             0.0,0.0,0.0

#
# NTSC POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
yiq_enable                0
yiq_cc                    3.59754545
yiq_a                     0.5
yiq_b                     0.5
yiq_o                     1.570796325
yiq_p                     1.0
yiq_n                     1.0
yiq_y                     6.0
yiq_i                     1.2
yiq_q                     0.6
yiq_scan_time             52.6
yiq_phase_count           2

#
# VECTOR POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_length_scale       0.8
vector_length_ratio       500.0

#
# BLOOM POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_bloom_scale        0.3
raster_bloom_scale        0.225
bloom_lvl0_weight         1.0
bloom_lvl1_weight         0.21
bloom_lvl2_weight         0.19
bloom_lvl3_weight         0.17
bloom_lvl4_weight         0.15
bloom_lvl5_weight         0.14
bloom_lvl6_weight         0.13
bloom_lvl7_weight         0.12
bloom_lvl8_weight         0.11
bloom_lvl9_weight         0.10
bloom_lvl10_weight        0.09

#
# PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS
#
screen                    auto
aspect                    auto
resolution                auto
view                      auto
screen0                   auto
aspect0                   auto
resolution0               auto
view0                     auto
screen1                   auto
aspect1                   auto
resolution1               auto
view1                     auto
screen2                   auto
aspect2                   auto
resolution2               auto
view2                     auto
screen3                   auto
aspect3                   auto
resolution3               auto
view3                     auto

#
# FULL SCREEN OPTIONS
#
triplebuffer              0
switchres                 0
full_screen_brightness    1.0
full_screen_contrast      1.0
full_screen_gamma         1.0

#
# WINDOWS SOUND OPTIONS
#
audio_latency             2

#
# INPUT DEVICE OPTIONS
#
dual_lightgun             0
joystick_id_1             0
joystick_id_2             1
joystick_id_3             2
joystick_id_4             3
joystick_id_5             4
joystick_id_6             5
joystick_id_7             6
joystick_id_8             7

Those settings will produce this effect.

VFiBvam.jpg[/img]

You will probably need to turn it on in HLHQ as well.

post-9524-142870625654_thumb.jpg

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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@creativeOne

To have scanlines showing on Hyperspin, you must have that set up in HyperHQ

Here.

post-9524-142870625894_thumb.jpg

That won't effect Mame of course, have a look at what I've already posted and give some detail about your Mame setup.

:cheers:

Rick74 Rookie

Rick74

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For anyone who needs it here is my Mame.ini. I'd like to thank potts43 for the wonderful hlsl settings. I never really liked it before, until I got these settings.

The paths will be wrong for you, and the only section you need for this, are in this section in the ini " DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS"

I've put the mame.ini in my ftp folder as well. /Upload Here/gigapig/Mame

#
# CORE CONFIGURATION OPTIONS
#
readconfig                1
writeconfig               0

#
# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS
#
rompath                   "E:\MAME 0.152 CHDs;J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\roms"
hashpath                  "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\hash"
samplepath                "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\samples"
artpath                   "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\artwork"
ctrlrpath                 "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\ctrlr"
inipath                   "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\ini"
fontpath                  .
cheatpath                 cheat
crosshairpath             "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\crosshair"
highpath                  dats

#
# CORE OUTPUT DIRECTORY OPTIONS
#
cfg_directory             "J:\Roms and Emulators\Emulators\Mame\cfg"
nvram_directory           nvram
memcard_directory         memcard
input_directory           inp
state_directory           sta
snapshot_directory        snap
diff_directory            diff
comment_directory         comments
hiscore_directory         hi
video_directory           video

#
# CORE STATE/PLAYBACK OPTIONS
#
state                     
autosave                  0
playback                  
record                    
mngwrite                  
aviwrite                  
wavwrite                  
snapname                  %g/%i
snapsize                  auto
snapview                  internal
statename                 %g
burnin                    0

#
# CORE PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
autoframeskip             0
frameskip                 0
seconds_to_run            0
throttle                  1
sleep                     0
speed                     1.0
refreshspeed              0

#
# CORE ROTATION OPTIONS
#
rotate                    1
ror                       0
rol                       0
autoror                   0
autorol                   0
flipx                     0
flipy                     0

#
# CORE ARTWORK OPTIONS
#
artwork_crop              0
use_backdrops             1
use_overlays              1
use_bezels                1
use_cpanels               1
use_marquees              0

#
# CORE SCREEN OPTIONS
#
brightness                1.0
contrast                  1.0
gamma                     1.0
pause_brightness          0.65
effect                    none
cleanstretch              0

#
# CORE VECTOR OPTIONS
#
antialias                 1
beam                      1.0
flicker                   0

#
# CORE SOUND OPTIONS
#
sound                     1
samplerate                48000
samples                   1
volume                    0
soundsync                 0

#
# CORE INPUT OPTIONS
#
coin_lockout              1
ctrlr                     
mouse                     1
joystick                  1
lightgun                  0
multikeyboard             0
multimouse                1
steadykey                 0
ui_active                 0
offscreen_reload          0
joystick_map              auto
joystick_deadzone         0.3
joystick_saturation       0.85
natural                   0
joystick_contradictory    0
coin_impulse              0

#
# CORE INPUT AUTOMATIC ENABLE OPTIONS
#
paddle_device             mouse
adstick_device            keyboard
pedal_device              keyboard
dial_device               mouse
trackball_device          mouse
lightgun_device           mouse
positional_device         joystick
mouse_device              mouse

#
# CORE DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
log                       0
verbose                   0
update_in_pause           0
debug                     0
debugscript               
debug_internal            0

#
# CORE MISC OPTIONS
#
drc                       1
drc_use_c                 0
bios                      
cheat                     0
skip_gameinfo             0
uifont                    default
ramsize                   
confirm_quit              0
ui_mouse                  0
autoboot_command          
autoboot_delay            2
autoboot_script           
http                      0
http_port                 8080
http_path                 web
hiscore                   1

#
# WINDOWS DEBUGGING OPTIONS
#
oslog                     0
watchdog                  0
debugger_font             "Lucida Console"
debugger_font_size        9

#
# WINDOWS PERFORMANCE OPTIONS
#
priority                  0
multithreading            1
numprocessors             auto
profile                   0
bench                     0

#
# WINDOWS VIDEO OPTIONS
#
video                     d3d
numscreens                1
window                    0
maximize                  1
keepaspect                1
unevenstretch             1
prescale                  1
waitvsync                 0
syncrefresh               0
menu                      0

#
# DIRECTDRAW-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
hwstretch                 1

#
# DIRECT3D-SPECIFIC OPTIONS
#
filter                    1

#
# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable               1
hlslpath                  hlsl
hlsl_prescale_x           4
hlsl_prescale_y           5
hlsl_preset               -1
hlsl_write                
hlsl_snap_width           2048
hlsl_snap_height          1536
shadow_mask_alpha         0.12
shadow_mask_texture       crt_slot_mask.png
shadow_mask_x_count       320
shadow_mask_y_count       240
shadow_mask_usize         0.18750
shadow_mask_vsize         0.21875
curvature                 0.09
pincushion                0.120000
scanline_alpha            1.5
scanline_size             0.95
scanline_height           1.0
scanline_bright_scale     1.1
scanline_bright_offset    0.6
scanline_jitter           0.00
defocus                   0.005,0.005
converge_x                0.2,0.0,0.0
converge_y                0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_x         0.2,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y         0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio                 0.85,0.15,0.0
grn_ratio                 -0.1,1.1,0.0
blu_ratio                 -0.075,0.0,1.075
saturation                1.0
offset                    -0.15,-0.18,-0.18
scale                     1.15,1.18,1.18
power                     1.1,0.9,0.7
floor                     0.01,0.0,0.01
phosphor_life             0.0,0.0,0.0

#
# NTSC POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
yiq_enable                0
yiq_cc                    3.59754545
yiq_a                     0.5
yiq_b                     0.5
yiq_o                     1.570796325
yiq_p                     1.0
yiq_n                     1.0
yiq_y                     6.0
yiq_i                     1.2
yiq_q                     0.6
yiq_scan_time             52.6
yiq_phase_count           2

#
# VECTOR POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_length_scale       0.8
vector_length_ratio       500.0

#
# BLOOM POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_bloom_scale        0.3
raster_bloom_scale        0.225
bloom_lvl0_weight         1.0
bloom_lvl1_weight         0.21
bloom_lvl2_weight         0.19
bloom_lvl3_weight         0.17
bloom_lvl4_weight         0.15
bloom_lvl5_weight         0.14
bloom_lvl6_weight         0.13
bloom_lvl7_weight         0.12
bloom_lvl8_weight         0.11
bloom_lvl9_weight         0.10
bloom_lvl10_weight        0.09

#
# PER-WINDOW VIDEO OPTIONS
#
screen                    auto
aspect                    auto
resolution                auto
view                      auto
screen0                   auto
aspect0                   auto
resolution0               auto
view0                     auto
screen1                   auto
aspect1                   auto
resolution1               auto
view1                     auto
screen2                   auto
aspect2                   auto
resolution2               auto
view2                     auto
screen3                   auto
aspect3                   auto
resolution3               auto
view3                     auto

#
# FULL SCREEN OPTIONS
#
triplebuffer              0
switchres                 0
full_screen_brightness    1.0
full_screen_contrast      1.0
full_screen_gamma         1.0

#
# WINDOWS SOUND OPTIONS
#
audio_latency             2

#
# INPUT DEVICE OPTIONS
#
dual_lightgun             0
joystick_id_1             0
joystick_id_2             1
joystick_id_3             2
joystick_id_4             3
joystick_id_5             4
joystick_id_6             5
joystick_id_7             6
joystick_id_8             7

Those settings will produce this effect.

VFiBvam.jpg[/img]

You will probably need to turn it on in HLHQ as well.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]39749[/ATTACH]

Where are you getting "crt_slot_mask.png" from? I don't have that in my artwork folder.

Can you kindly upload it to your FTP folder?

Thanks!

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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Where are you getting "crt_slot_mask.png" from? I don't have that in my artwork folder.

Can you kindly upload it to your FTP folder?

Thanks!

It's in /Upload Here/gigapig/Mame/Scanlines

Rick74 Rookie

Rick74

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It's in /Upload Here/gigapig/Mame/Scanlines

OK thanks, I found it.

I still can't get HLSL to look as good as the shaders in RetroArch. Maybe I'm just doing something wrong, but even though I can get even, pixel perfect scanlines, I can't get them to display with a uniform brightness.

RetroArch shaders don't have this problem.

I've tried so many HLSL settings and searched forums left and right, but I can't seem to get HLSL to look all that great.

I have tried your HLSL settings, gigapig, but still have scanline issues. Really noticeable on an all white background.

Maybe someone who knows HLSL better can help me.

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

Posted
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Sorry to hi Jack the thread but I'm using the old hyperspin so can't do the global thing

I'm happy to edit the mame.ini file but I can't find it to add those settings can anyone help

apuqutus.jpg

I have just downloaded an older version of Mame, version 0.147 x64, to see the folder structure. Your right, there is no ini folder in that version, nor in version 0.152, so i assume that the ini folder is either added by the user or used in other versions of Mame, other than the command line version.

However there is a hlsl folder, mine has an hlsl.ini file with the same settings, so the may have to create that ini inside the hlsl folder and enable it.

I'm not sure of the history or why things are different, perhaps someone else knows, or I'll have to do some reading.

Here is the contents of my hlsl.ini.

# DIRECT3D POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
hlsl_enable 1
hlslpath hlsl
hlsl_prescale_x 7
hlsl_prescale_y 7
hlsl_preset -1
hlsl_write 1
hlsl_snap_width 2560
hlsl_snap_height 1440
shadow_mask_alpha 0.20
shadow_mask_texture Shadowmask_Twisty.png
shadow_mask_x_count 320
shadow_mask_y_count 240
shadow_mask_usize 0.18750
shadow_mask_vsize 0.21875
curvature 0.03
pincushion 0.03
scanline_alpha 1.0
scanline_size 1.0
scanline_height 0.6566
scanline_bright_scale 1.15
scanline_bright_offset 0.0
scanline_jitter 0.05
defocus 1.5,1.5
converge_x -0.3,0.0,0.3
converge_y -0.3,0.0,0.3
radial_converge_x 0.0,0.0,0.0
radial_converge_y 0.0,0.0,0.0
red_ratio 1.0,0.0,0.0
grn_ratio 0.0,1.0,0.0
blu_ratio 0.0,0.0,1.0
saturation 0.95
offset -0.15,-0.16,-0.16
scale 1.15,1.16,1.16
power 1.1,0.95,0.8
floor 0.01,0.01,0.01
phosphor_life 0.0,0.0,0.0

#
# NTSC POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
yiq_enable 0
yiq_cc 3.59754545
yiq_a 0.5
yiq_b 0.5
yiq_o 1.570796325
yiq_p 1.0
yiq_n 1.0
yiq_y 6.0
yiq_i 1.2
yiq_q 0.6
yiq_scan_time 52.6
yiq_phase_count 2

#
# VECTOR POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_length_scale 0.8
vector_length_ratio 500.0

#
# BLOOM POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_bloom_scale 0.3
raster_bloom_scale 0.17
bloom_lvl0_weight 1.0
bloom_lvl1_weight 0.21
bloom_lvl2_weight 0.19
bloom_lvl3_weight 0.17
bloom_lvl4_weight 0.15
bloom_lvl5_weight 0.14
bloom_lvl6_weight 0.13
bloom_lvl7_weight 0.12
bloom_lvl8_weight 0.11
bloom_lvl9_weight 0.10
bloom_lvl10_weight 0.09

# CORE SCREEN OPTIONS
#
brightness 0.99
contrast 0.85
gamma 0.75
pause_brightness 1.0

Min2001 Newbie

Min2001

Posted
Posted

yep run "mame -cc" from command prompt to get the mame.ini files if you dont have them.

I dont run scanlines on mine but you might wanna check out the other ones there and go through them to find the best ones. Theres one called Real_Scanlines.png in the artwork folder too.. dont know if that would be any better than the rest or not. I remember the times when you tried really hard to squint with your eyes to get rid of the scanlines and now people are trying to put them back on :D

monkeychunkuk Contributor

monkeychunkuk

Posted
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yep run "mame -cc" from command prompt to get the mame.ini files if you dont have them.

I dont run scanlines on mine but you might wanna check out the other ones there and go through them to find the best ones. Theres one called Real_Scanlines.png in the artwork folder too.. dont know if that would be any better than the rest or not. I remember the times when you tried really hard to squint with your eyes to get rid of the scanlines and now people are trying to put them back on :D

It's funny I hadn't thought about scan lines and I think old games look great

As they are but I think as you get more into the hobby you want to make things as nostalgic as can

Thanks for the advice I'll give it a go but I'm not going to break a sweat if I can't get it working

  • 1 year later...
methos01 Rookie

methos01

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Hi

I can't figure out how to change the settings in hyperlaunch HQ. In Mame 0.159 and mameui the picture looks great. When I launch through hyperlaunch I get a very classic looking image.. scanlines, curved screen and washed out picture.

I can't think of anywhere else to look to change the settings

It's driving me crazy anybody know where I should look?

gigapig Mentor

gigapig

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Hi

I can't figure out how to change the settings in hyperlaunch HQ. In Mame 0.159 and mameui the picture looks great. When I launch through hyperlaunch I get a very classic looking image.. scanlines, curved screen and washed out picture.

I can't think of anywhere else to look to change the settings

It's driving me crazy anybody know where I should look?

Sorry I'm not sure what your asking, do you want scanlines or do you want them off?

If you want them off then you must change the setting below in HLHQ to false. Changing settings in Mame will make no difference.

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methos01

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Sorry I'm not sure what your asking, do you want scanlines or do you want them off?

If you want them off then you must change the setting below in HLHQ to false. Changing settings in Mame will make no difference.

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Thanks that worked

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