fetalrainbow Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 fancied up an old arcade cabinet I bought for 10 bucks. quite pleased with the aesthetics of the thing, (can provide a pic later) 6 button / 2 player ipac controller setup, with start and menu buttons and coin door. I bought a preconfigured drive, (even though people caution against this i know...) and have it mostly going fine, except for of course all these little hiccups, dialing in controls for particular emulators, and retroarch filters and whatnot. it feels like i have this thing 95% done, but its gonna take me more time than I have to learn everything I need to polish it off, and I'd happily pay someone in the Seattle area if they could help me get this thing all dialed in. please please, lets use your hyperknowledge for the greater good!
Avar Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 Hate to break it to you but no one can ever get a pre-configured drive to a point where it's "polished." They are trash and you got scammed. Big time. No matter how much time and effort gets poured into that thing, there will always be countless bugs that only manifest when you try to run specific things or do certain things. At its absolute best, it will never look, run, or feel remotely like it should. The things that seem to be "going fine" probably aren't and are likely vastly inferior to a fresh install in terms of both aesthetics and functionality. Even a lot of the individual rom files will have issues that won't manifest w/o manually auditing every single individual rom file or trying to run them. Those drives are cancer. With the time you've already put into that thing, you coulda had a perfect, polished setup of your own. It would still be easier and better to just start completely from scratch than it would be to dump more time into that. You should get your money back and report the scam. You can have a clean, fresh install up and running with zero HS experience in a matter of hours and you'll not have to deal with the stress of wondering how/when the pre "configured" cancer drive will take an embarrassing crap on itself.
Metalzoic Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 What Avar said. I'm in the Seattle area, but wouldn't touch a pre-config drive. A pre-built drive was also the mistake I made when I started and within a couple days of messing with it, it became obvious it would never be right. I thought it would save me time, but it actually cost me a lot of time. Wiped it completely, started from scratch, and over the course of a single weekend had it all setup and running great and far, far better than the drive ever would be. I'd say pick a weekend and dive in. You'll be much happier with the results. Plus you'll actually be able to fix it when needed because you did it right yourself.
fetalrainbow Posted January 16, 2017 Author Posted January 16, 2017 ok, well...I guess if it is really that simple, but for some reason I am still unable to get it going how i want, is there anyone that acts as a technician of sorts? I am typically a do it yourself kind of person, but sometimes there just is a job in which it becomes practical to utilize the strengths of someone who knows what they're doing you know?
Avar Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 You'll be happier in the long run doing it all yourself. It's a lot less daunting than it seems and you'll be much more comfortable down the line and more in control of your own gaming destiny. There are a lot of great tutorials in the tut section of the site and I've converted the most fundamental of them into video format. Either should help get your setup just the way you want it. All the info's here on the site but if you ever want specific tutorials done or anything, feel free to ask now that I'm back in action.
fetalrainbow Posted January 16, 2017 Author Posted January 16, 2017 but I'm telling you...databases and bugs and things make me go a little crazy... I totally understand why we should all discourage preconfigured drives (and ill keep crossing my fingers that the software someday all syncs up to be more plug and playable on the user end) and i'm willing to learn as much as i can until i hit that breaking point, haha. I mean, I would still LOVE to have someone that would be willing to stop by and use their experience to coach me through this (not saying the tutorial work isn't incredible! I just learn much better directly with someone) so, we'll see, thanks for all your hard work regardless
Metalzoic Posted January 16, 2017 Posted January 16, 2017 Another option is to use Gigapigs pre-built download. It's basically a HyperSpin setup, with RocketLauncher all pre-configured for 40 or 50 systems or so. You have to be a premium member to download it though. Personally I say follow the Tutorials here for setting up HyperSpin with RocketLauncher from scratch. Following Ghutches guide and Simply Austins video and begin with setting up MAME. Once you have that part down, most of the other systems setup the same way (daphne can be a bitch even when you know what you're doing though, but there's also a really good guide topic for that)
fetalrainbow Posted January 17, 2017 Author Posted January 17, 2017 Thanks. I mean, I also, hate you guys for not taking my money and setting this up for me... like, screw you guys. but...thanks hahaha
Avar Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 Would advise against Austin's personally. They contain errors and are outdated, hence why the official guides exist.
rastan Posted January 17, 2017 Posted January 17, 2017 if mame is working fine? I'd say scrap everything that isn't working and try to figure that out later (if you don't plan on starting from scratch).. a cab and mame is a pretty good setup..
aldub516 Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 my suggestion is build yourself a new harddrive from scratch, with future projects in mind. I paid close attention to my folder structures and such, built a near complete drive for myself, and i can now drop my drive into any system and have it running in just few minutes.. basically change controls, make sure i have a few drivers or anything hyperspin needs, and i have a working master harddrive on any system. But like others said, i wouldnt buy one.
teamherosquad Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 Hey buddy I live just south of you but I've been building my own hyperspin setup from scratch and it's a complete pain and takes forever. depending on how close to perfect your setup already is, I would either find the tools to do it yourself or I would just call it as good as it gets. if you'd like to pm me, I can show you the ropes on a couple of tools that helped me fix some problems I've been having and then you would save the time it takes to find them yourself. I've found there's been quite a bit of link rot over the years and a bit of gatekeeping on the goodstuff so it takes a lot of research and time to do this yourself. Once you know how and where to get the tools it's a lot easier.
fetalrainbow Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 my number one problem right now is not knowing how best to setup controls. I first tried to customize controls from my ipac, but certain button combinations are booting me from the game, I have since discovered that you dont get a "one button setting fits all" because of the variation of emulators, and you should configure a special setting through joy2key.right? so, before i go through all of this and learn the hard way, is there a preferred ipac button config? should i just go back to ipac default settings, and reconfigure everything else to that?
fetalrainbow Posted January 26, 2017 Author Posted January 26, 2017 and here's my button layout for anyone interested. it was originally a "depthcharge" cabinet that had just about been smashed apart, and cost me $10.
Metalzoic Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 An iPac is a keyboard encoder. So if you're using tht you shouldn't really need to use Joy2Key for most things. What emulators are you running and what are you using Joy2Key for? You have the same button setup I have. I run MAME, PC & Steam Games, Taito Type X games... I think that's it other than a handful of one-off console games. After a bunch of tweaking I settled on an iPac configuration that causes no conflicts. If you want I can go see what my buttons are set as for you.
teamherosquad Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 10 hours ago, fetalrainbow said: my number one problem right now is not knowing how best to setup controls. I first tried to customize controls from my ipac, but certain button combinations are booting me from the game, I have since discovered that you dont get a "one button setting fits all" because of the variation of emulators, and you should configure a special setting through joy2key.right? so, before i go through all of this and learn the hard way, is there a preferred ipac button config? should i just go back to ipac default settings, and reconfigure everything else to that? You need to set up the games individually, when running a game press tab and choose configure for this game.
gigapig Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Is it true that the mame default controls are set up for ipac already?
Metalzoic Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 1 minute ago, gigapig said: Is it true that the mame default controls are set up for ipac already? Yes. I believe out of the box it is setup for MAME default controls. Mine was used so it was totally different, but it's really easy to change with its WiniPac prgram.
Guest Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Is it true that the mame default controls are set up for ipac already?Yeah, or rather the ipac is set to use MAME's default keys out of the box. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
gigapig Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, tonesmalone said: Yeah, or rather the ipac is set to use MAME's default keys out of the box. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Thank you gents. So is it good practice to map the same controls or keyboard keys to the other emulators? Where possible of course.
Metalzoic Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, gigapig said: Thank you gents. So is it good practice to map the same controls or keyboard keys to the other emulators? I found that the default MAME controls conflicted with other stuff, especially PC games (and TTX?). So I completely changed them on the iPac to be something more universally friendly. From there it only takes a couple minutes to change the MAME keys to match. For any one-off changes needed for individual games I just re-map using the AHK keymapper built into Rocketlauncher which also just takes a couple minutes.
Guest Posted January 26, 2017 Posted January 26, 2017 Thank you gents. So is it good practice to map the same controls or keyboard keys to the other emulators? Where possible of course.That's what I do yeah, keeps things simple. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
fetalrainbow Posted January 30, 2017 Author Posted January 30, 2017 are there any standard procedures to disable things in windows that will cause problems with multiple keys pressed or anything like that? I recall there being certain issues with buttons pressed rapidly or at the same time. currently using windows 7
Metalzoic Posted January 31, 2017 Posted January 31, 2017 There's an option called sticky keys that I think you want turned off under the windows keyboard options. And obviously you don't want to use keys that complete any windows shortcuts etc... might be able to look up a list of those somewhere. If you use an iPac you generally don't need to worry about the normal limit on rapid/simultaneous keypresses because the iPac works around it. However for the new Killer Instinct I did have to go in and manually raise a rapid keypress limit up into the 1000's because that game would lock because of it once in a while. It's the only game that's ever done it though.
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