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craiganderson

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hello

im going through all the atari 5200 games and making sure they are working under MESS (my main emulator for 5200)

if not working under MESS,....i switch that game to KAT

however i have noticed

so far

there are no games that work on mess that dont work on kat (very unofficial statement cuz im not going that direction)

but there are more than a few games that dont work on mess that do work on kat

and kat looks crisper

is that everybody elses experience as well>??

thanks

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Yes, that's what I have found as well. I started doing the same as you - using MESS as the default standard as I would assume it is more accurate. After a while, I found that MESS has many small issues with either video or audio which made me switch my default emu for the 5200 over to KAT. I do like the NTSC/HLSL video filtering capabilities in MESS but it just wasn't worth dealing with all the other little glitches. 5200 emulation is really close in MESS, but as you said - there are more than a few issues and it seems the dev team has moved on so I'm not holding out hope that they will be fixed any time soon if ever.

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What video settings are you guys using for Kat? I'm struggling to get mine full screen. It takes up about a fifth of my 1080p display, small square in the middle of the screen...

Care to share your settings for the most authentic looking retro CRT look?

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better to be lucky than good i guess

as far as kat and video settings

i am using whatever the default settings are (i have never touched them as far as i can remember)

and it is fullscreen on my 32 tv

havent tried the 55 inch that is also hooked up to this tower

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Current MESS is better than ProSystem which has a lot of issues with fullscreen and color palettes on anything newer than XP.

Are there any individual games that you are sending to ProSystem instead of MESS?

I was planning on checking them myself but if somebody has already done it ........

thanks

craiganderson

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2014-05-21_16-45-33_zps3426dafd.png

made a real quick 7800 theme

this will do for now

much more "fun" looking to me

never liked the official one

too mean looking

and it always looked like the guy in left lower corner was j**rk*ng off or something

(but very well done and better than anything i could ever do)

2014-05-21_16-34-29_zpseecfa000.png

just fyi

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ok

i guess i dont have it cuz its not in the xml

mybad

<menu>

<header>

<listname>Atari 7800</listname>

<lastlistupdate>06/08/2013</lastlistupdate>

<listversion>1.1 Final</listversion>

<exporterversion>

HyperList XML Exporter Version 1.3 Copywrite © 2009-2011 William Strong

</exporterversion>

</header>

<game name="32 in 1 (USA)" index="true" image="3">

<description>32 in 1 (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>eaef28ea</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Compilation</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Ace of Aces (USA)" index="true" image="a">

<description>Ace of Aces (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>fa616e77</crc>

<manufacturer>Artech</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Flying</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Alien Brigade (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Alien Brigade (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>3cef22ca</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Asteroids (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Asteroids (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>c9f1e305</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Ballblazer (USA)" index="true" image="b">

<description>Ballblazer (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>5b635cb6</crc>

<manufacturer>Lucasfilm Games</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Barnyard Blaster (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Barnyard Blaster (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>36a9f2a5</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Gun</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Basketbrawl (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Basketbrawl (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>fd3aec38</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Basketball/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Centipede (USA)" index="true" image="c">

<description>Centipede (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>7ca3ec6b</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Choplifter! (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Choplifter! (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>0b0d05d4</crc>

<manufacturer>Broderbund Software</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Commando (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Commando (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>e9bd1c75</crc>

<manufacturer>Capcom</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Crack'ed (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Crack'ed (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>61dcc763</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Crossbow (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Crossbow (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>a2678e2d</crc>

<manufacturer>Exidy</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Dark Chambers (USA)" index="true" image="d">

<description>Dark Chambers (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>b5a87d19</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Maze</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Desert Falcon (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Desert Falcon (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>5ff04461</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Dig Dug (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Dig Dug (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>a6da053d</crc>

<manufacturer>Namco</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Maze</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Donkey Kong (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Donkey Kong (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>24afb84f</crc>

<manufacturer>Nintendo</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Donkey Kong Junior (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Donkey Kong Junior (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>812457fb</crc>

<manufacturer>Nintendo</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Double Dragon (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Double Dragon (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>16e2fc12</crc>

<manufacturer>Technos</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Beat-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="F-18 Hornet (USA)" index="true" image="f">

<description>F-18 Hornet (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>fa3e8cbb</crc>

<manufacturer>Absolute Entertainment</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Flying</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Fatal Run (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Fatal Run (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>718232bb</crc>

<manufacturer>Sculptured Software</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Driving</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Fight Night (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Fight Night (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>28e38bd7</crc>

<manufacturer>Sydney Development</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Boxing/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Food Fight (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Food Fight (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>db5b7d3f</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Fighter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Galaga (USA)" index="true" image="g">

<description>Galaga (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>0a174f9b</crc>

<manufacturer>Namco</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Hat Trick (USA)" index="true" image="h">

<description>Hat Trick (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>e293793e</crc>

<manufacturer>Bally Sente</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Hockey/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Ikari Warriors (USA)" index="true" image="i">

<description>Ikari Warriors (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>aa0cfb30</crc>

<manufacturer>SNK</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Impossible Mission (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Impossible Mission (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>fa0a683e</crc>

<manufacturer>Epyx</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Jinks (USA)" index="true" image="j">

<description>Jinks (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>9571c998</crc>

<manufacturer>Diamond Software</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Breakout</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Joust (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Joust (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>1646ec7c</crc>

<manufacturer>Williams Electronics</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Karateka (USA)" index="true" image="k">

<description>Karateka (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>be689aea</crc>

<manufacturer>Broderbund Software</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Fighter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Kung-Fu Master (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Kung-Fu Master (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>37816887</crc>

<manufacturer>Irem</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Fighter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Mario Bros. (USA)" index="true" image="m">

<description>Mario Bros. (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>fcffc04a</crc>

<manufacturer>Nintendo</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Mat Mania Challenge (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Mat Mania Challenge (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>a902f3e6</crc>

<manufacturer>American Technos</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Sports/Wrestling</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Mean 18 Ultimate Golf (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Mean 18 Ultimate Golf (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>517d1986</crc>

<manufacturer>Accolade</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Golf/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Meltdown (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Meltdown (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>14502302</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Midnight Mutants (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Midnight Mutants (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>e7157222</crc>

<manufacturer>Radioactive Software</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Adventure</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Motor Psycho (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Motor Psycho (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>fc414689</crc>

<manufacturer>BlueSky Software</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Driving</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Ms. Pac-Man (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Ms. Pac-Man (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>2b11d9f2</crc>

<manufacturer>General Computer Corporation, Midway</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Maze</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Ninja Golf (USA)" index="true" image="n">

<description>Ninja Golf (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>9e5d3625</crc>

<manufacturer>BlueSky Software</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Golf/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="One-on-One Basketball (USA)" index="true" image="o">

<description>One-on-One Basketball (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>859c8456</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Basketball/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Pete Rose Baseball (USA)" index="true" image="p">

<description>Pete Rose Baseball (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>ecece40b</crc>

<manufacturer>Absolute Entertainment</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Baseball/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Planet Smashers (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Planet Smashers (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>46342cd3</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Pole Position II (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Pole Position II (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>3d57623a</crc>

<manufacturer>Namco</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Driving</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Rampage (USA)" index="true" image="r">

<description>Rampage (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>859d9352</crc>

<manufacturer>Bally Midway</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="RealSports Baseball (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>RealSports Baseball (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>f33bd4fd</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Baseball/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Robotron - 2084 (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Robotron - 2084 (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>aa06b121</crc>

<manufacturer>Williams Electronic Games</manufacturer>

<year>1986</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Scrapyard Dog (USA)" index="true" image="s">

<description>Scrapyard Dog (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>db61ae81</crc>

<manufacturer>BlueSky Software</manufacturer>

<year>1990</year>

<genre>Platform</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Sentinel (Europe)" index="" image="">

<description>Sentinel (Europe)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>4c779065</crc>

<manufacturer>Atari</manufacturer>

<year>1991</year>

<genre>Gun</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Summer Games (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Summer Games (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>8e4cf69c</crc>

<manufacturer>Epyx</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Super Huey UH-1X (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Super Huey UH-1X (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>033a6058</crc>

<manufacturer>Cosmi</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Flying</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Super Skateboardin' (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Super Skateboardin\' (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>faa12091</crc>

<manufacturer>Absolute Entertainment</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Skateboarding/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Tank Command (USA)" index="true" image="t">

<description>Tank Command (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>9ffc9515</crc>

<manufacturer>Froggo Games</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Shooter</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Title Match Pro Wrestling (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Title Match Pro Wrestling (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>a5742a96</crc>

<manufacturer>Absolute Entertainment</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Sports/Wrestling</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Tomcat - The F-14 Fighter Simulator (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Tomcat - The F-14 Fighter Simulator (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>ab48f361</crc>

<manufacturer>Absolute Entertainment</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Flying</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Touchdown Football (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Touchdown Football (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>4162e98f</crc>

<manufacturer>Imagic</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Football/Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Tower Toppler (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Tower Toppler (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>f701bd43</crc>

<manufacturer>Hewson</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Action</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Water Ski (USA)" index="true" image="w">

<description>Water Ski (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>09a27634</crc>

<manufacturer>Froggo Games</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Winter Games (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Winter Games (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>12454060</crc>

<manufacturer>Action Graphics</manufacturer>

<year>1987</year>

<genre>Sports</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Xenophobe (USA)" index="true" image="x">

<description>Xenophobe (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>96ee8584</crc>

<manufacturer>Bally Midway</manufacturer>

<year>1989</year>

<genre>Action</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

<game name="Xevious (USA)" index="" image="">

<description>Xevious (USA)</description>

<cloneof/>

<crc>3f8507f3</crc>

<manufacturer>Namco</manufacturer>

<year>1988</year>

<genre>Shoot-'Em-Up</genre>

<rating>HSRS - GA (General Audience)</rating>

<enabled>Yes</enabled>

</game>

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I would love to switch to Mess for 7800, it's one of my only systems not compatible with HP because of Prosystem. Did they fix the music problem in Commando? That's one of my favorite games I played on the 7800. When I booted up Mess back in late January and saw how the music was broke in Commando I dumped it.

Also did they add in light gun emulation?

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Trnzaddict - Yep, Commando fixed with latest build. I think I read in the thread over at AtariAge that they were working on lightgun emu now, so perhaps in the near future...check out the link in my post above for more details on the new version and the couple of things left to fix (i.e. lightgun support)...

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