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Okay, so ignore everything that is striked out below... I've got them working.

 

The issue I have now is twofold:

1) How do I play 2 player on the 2012 version. Is this possible? If not, what am I missing out on in the earlier version?

2) How do I activate Evil Ryu and Oni - these both exist on the 2012 version but not on the 2 player version I have...

 

Thanks

 

 

 

So, i followed this video here 

on setting up TTX - everything works as it should, EXCEPT...

 

when I load up Street Fighter IV, the whole system crashes at the Insert Coin screen with a black screen apart from the Insert Coin logo, a bit of text around the screen and a couple of red icons at the bottom...

 

What gives? What have I done wrong? Works with other games, just not SF

 

Tried on two different systems and same story...

 

 

EDIT: So literally just as I posted this I managed to get it to work - seems like it's really flaky and any system change kills it. My firewall window had popped up. Same happened second time with the darnes sticky keys window (as I have coin set to shift for testing!)

 

Is there any way to change the resolution?

Also anyone know a way to set up Super SFIV? I cant seem to find instructions for that... I think the issue i have is that in what I pulled from that vid, FadeTitle is set as "SF41 - Nov  4 2010 14:01:12 ahk_class SF41" but i was trying to use the 2012 version (as presumed this would be more stable?)

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OKAY...

 

For anyone that cares, i solved the main issue. I can now play 2player at 16:10

 

The way I did this was thus:

- Hex editor compared ttxshell to game.exe - it is basically a modified version of that

- Found the reference to 1080p and changed to 1200

 

You can do the same by following these instructions:

1) Download a Hex Editor - I used Hex Workshop

2) Go to reference 00387224

3) change the value (which is 3804 if i remember rightly) to B004 - this is the hex for 1200

 

In theory you could change the resolution totally here - there is another value on the same line (earlier) for 8007 - this is the 1920 - you can change the combo of these to match whatever res you like (i assume)

 

Save the file, run using loader and the new ttxshell. Bobs your uncle :)

 

Oh, one other thing - if you don't know hex you can convert decimal to Hex in that tool by using the convertor under tools. Set it to intel and short and type the value in decimal box

 

This was a full eve of trial and error so quite chuffed!!

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Okay, i realise i may be talking to myself in this thread, but have another question about TTX...

 

Daemon Bride runs windowed... there is a config in the folder which has a Fullscreen box - ticking that and the game fails to load...

 

Anyone know how i run this full screen?

 

EDIT: Same with Arcana Heart 3...

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Street Fighter doesn't let you change the rez right from the Loader option screen? (I didn't bother to set up SSFIV because the PC version is soooooooooooo much better)

Daemon Bride?.. I don't think I've even ever heard of that game, unless it goes by another name.

I don't remember any specifics of individual TTX games. I just kept running them through the loader outside of HS/RL trying different settings until I had them looking and working right. Many games seemed to only run at the correct aspect or screen size if you set them to a specific rez (rather than your monitors rez). Or found the best combination of rez and other settings.

Still a couple that Don't work because my GPU isn't compatible though (BBlue and Far Cry)

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Street Fighter doesn't let you change the rez right from the Loader option screen? (I didn't bother to set up SSFIV because the PC version is soooooooooooo much better)

Daemon Bride?.. I don't think I've even ever heard of that game, unless it goes by another name.

I don't remember any specifics of individual TTX games. I just kept running them through the loader outside of HS/RL trying different settings until I had them looking and working right. Many games seemed to only run at the correct aspect or screen size if you set them to a specific rez (rather than your monitors rez). Or found the best combination of rez and other settings.

Still a couple that Don't work because my GPU isn't compatible though (BBlue and Far Cry)

 

Which loader are you using? Nowhere i have seen uses a loader for SF (apart from the standard loader exe)

 

I'm having issues with quite a few of them tbh... I dont mind running at an odd resolution (so long as it looks good), but at the moment I cant get some of them running outside a window, the window is visible etc

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ArcadePCLoader... Isn't that what you're using? That's how I set (almost) all of mine up. Just run the games through that emu/loader, try different settings, test, repeat until it runs right. It was fairly quick and easy that way.

(Gigas video above is 2 years old and I didn't see him using it in there. maybe I missed it though).

Sometimes you find a simple setting makes a big change. Like in Chaos Breakers if you switch it from the Japanese version to the English version the main fighter dude changes to a completely different character etc...

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ArcadePCLoader... Isn't that what you're using? That's how I set (almost) all of mine up. Just run the games through that emu/loader, try different settings, test, repeat until it runs right. It was fairly quick and easy that way.

(Gigas video above is 2 years old and I didn't see him using it in there. maybe I missed it though).

Sometimes you find a simple setting makes a big change. Like in Chaos Breakers if you switch it from the Japanese version to the English version the main fighter dude changes to a completely different character etc...

No, I want using that, but I may look now... The set I have all have their own bat loaders and I was using RL and pcloader module with that per the guide...

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Is there a way to change resolution in Chaos Breaker? Mine looks terrible.

 

Have you tried testing it in all resolutions? I'm not sure what I have mine set at.

However I did just moments ago post a bezel for it in this topic http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/topic/14778-chaos-breaker-ttx-resolution/?p=204791

That adds a GLSL looking overlay that helps define the blocky pixels a bit better. You might check it out.

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No, I want using that, but I may look now... The set I have all have their own bat loaders and I was using RL and pcloader module with that per the guide...

If you aren't using ArcadePCLoader how are you quickly setting your rez, language, settings etc...? Seems like you're doing it the hard way.

 

Here, maybe this will help. It's from this topic: http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/topic/13201-taito-x-games-not-launching-in-rl/?hl=%2Btaito+%2Btype#entry187062

 

Here's the link to the ArcadePC Loader program

https://mega.nz/#!1F...h-1C5IUGIFFXizw

 

Basically install it into the main folder where you already have your games so it can see them.

as you run each game through it you can see which options it can alter per game and it seems to lock those options into the Title_Launcher.exe. Then when you point RL to that .exe those options seem to be built in. Plus this makes it easier and faster to test resolutions with the games as some res's will break a game (Like Power Instinct 5) and some games will only run correctly in a single resolution (Like Battle Fantasia has to be at a x 768 res). Doing it this way also seems to keep you from needing to use .bat files for most (all?) games.

 

For example run Chaos Breaker through it. Set it to English for english or better yet set it to "other", it will be in English & the main character completely changes into an awesome conan dude. Once you've run it you can set the RocketLauncher module launch Application to CB_Launcher.exe and the AppWaitExe to game.exe. Now the game will launch with those same settings.

 

I set these all up in one day last Sunday so I'm no expert, I just found that this seemed to work. Although for Gigawing and Raiden I went ahead and did it Austins way to get the bezels. The others I did this way because they seemed to work better than his. For example Samurai Shodown his way gave me soft low-res and it ran in the incorrect aspect ratio. Set it up this way and it will be a sharp resolution and the characters will maintain the correct aspect ratio.

 

Good luck

 

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Yep - def doing it the hard way!! Didn't know that piece of software existed and would have saved me a ton of timeE!!

 

 

You're right tho, some settings are a bit odd... one of the games ran fine at 1080p but at 1920x1200 dropped to way less

 

I also found that another game at the resolutions i tried was fine until you got in game, where it trimmed off the bottom half of the screen!!

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Does ArcadeLoader allow you to playe the 2012 version of SSFIV 2 player? Or is that still relegated to version 1.0?

 

Also, any way to change the directories?

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There is absolutely no justification for playing the Taito Type X version of SF4 when the actual PC version is better and the controls just work.

I 100% disagree.

When you are running an arcade cab with arcade controls, why on earth do I not want the authentic experience? Does the pc version have additional unneeded menus etc. Yes. Does the pc version ask to insert coin to use with my coin buttons? No.

Ttx version works just fine, less fluff, more authentic.

If you're not running a cab, I'd agree, but on a cab, authentic is best :)

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ArcadePCLoader is even older than my video and is not required to play these games. The reason for the video and the accompanying files was to remove the need to use another loader on top of another Launcher/Loader (HyperLaumch/RL) and simplify things for the end user . Drag and drop almost.

 

All supporting resolutions can be changed by either editing gameres.dat or settings.arc. For the hardcore then you try what vaderag has succeeded with and well done to you.

 

Daemon Bride and AH3 can all be set to full screen by running xb_config and checking the full screen box.

 

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ArcadePCLoader is even older than my video and is not required to play these games. The reason for the video and the accompanying files was to remove the need to use another loader on top of another Launcher/Loader (HyperLaumch/RL) and simplify things for the end user . Drag and drop almost.

All supporting resolutions can be changed by either editing gameres.dat or settings.arc. For the hardcore then you try what vaderag has succeeded with and well done to you.

Daemon Bride and AH3 can all be set to full screen by running xb_config and checking the full screen box.

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Yeah, I tried that but both crashed out (kindly leaving my screen at 640x480 at the same time)... Will have a play and see if I can work out something that works...

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If you do try GLARH from the above link and use it to run EX-Board games like AH3 and Daemon Bride then you will need the XB_config.exe from the same link to set the controls.

 

Once you have run the game (first you'll notice that it looks like ass) a new file TTX.ini will be created, in that file you can make changes to A, the Loader Mode and B, the loader mode settings.

 

I have made an ini file which uses Loader mode 6 instead of -1 so it looks a little better. If you scroll down to nearly the bottom of the file you will see the settings for Loader mode 6. I changed Fixed aspect to 0 and tried 5 for the antialiasing. You can tweak it further and see if you can get some better results for your set up.

 

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I 100% disagree.

When you are running an arcade cab with arcade controls, why on earth do I not want the authentic experience? Does the pc version have additional unneeded menus etc. Yes. Does the pc version ask to insert coin to use with my coin buttons? No.

Ttx version works just fine, less fluff, more authentic.

If you're not running a cab, I'd agree, but on a cab, authentic is best :)

 

It's got more game balance fixes, it's got more costumes. It's the latest version of the game.

 

It IS better. Who are you kidding? You're not running an arcade. Who gives a crap if it takes coins?

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Okay, here is the result of my testing to get the best for each game...

 

Most of these i've got to work with the original Gigapigs method. Others I have set the res etc with ArcadePCLoader - you can tell these by the use of the xxxx_Launcher.exe

Some Don't work with the Arcade PC Loader - e.g Chaos Breaker runs at a million frames per second via that method!!

NB. in all of these I am aiming for 16:10 1920x1200. If something is not 16:10 it means I cant get it to work in that res, or setting that res breaks something...

 

AH3 - Arcana Heart 3 - xb_loader.exe - 1920 x 1200 is fine
BBCS - BBCS_Launcher.exe - 1920 x 1080 optimum 
BBCT - BlazBlue Calamity Trigger - 1920 x 1080 optimum
BF - Battle Fantasia - BF_Launcher.exe - 1280 x 768 or it breaks

CB - Chaos Breaker - Chaos Breaker.bat - Looks like poo whatever you do ;)

Daemon Bride - xb_loader.exe - Win7 Compat Mode Required
GWG - Giga Wing Generations - GWG_Launcher.exe - CANNOT GET BEZEL TO WORK...
HMR - Homura - Homura.exe
KOF98UM - King of Fighters '98, The Ultimate Match.bat
KOFMIA - King Of Fighters Maximum Impact Regulation - Not Working. Crashes after logo screens
KOFXII - King of Fighters XII, The.bat - NEED Win7 compat mode
KOFXIII - King of Fighters XIII, The.bat - res in settings.arc but breaks view
OTMD - Otomedius - OTMD_Launcher.exe
PI5 - Power Instinct The Commemoration.bat
Raiden III & IV - Use Raiden III and IV .exe
SA - Spica Adventure.bat - keep res proportional. I went 1600x1200 else it breaks!
SNSIII - Shikigami no Shiro III.exe
SSED - Samurai Shodown - Edge of Destiny.bat
Arcana Heart 2 - xb_loader.exe - NB. Takes AGES to load.
TTGm3 - Tetris The Grand Master 3 Terror Instinct.
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Looks like you have the same ones I have, except that I can't run BlazBlue because of my ATI GPU. Not sure if my KOF MI works or crashes like yours.

I also have Choas Breaker setup, but did it through the loader just fine. As for it's super pixel look did you try using it with the pseudo-GLSL-bezel I made for it in the other TTX thread?

Doesn't fix it, but it at least adds some scanlines to it to help define the pixel-mess it is. The game itself is my favorite of the TTX games.

Ah I just realized I also have Wacky Racers and Half-Life which you don't have listed there. Austin has vids on those two.

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Looks like you have the same ones I have, except that I can't run BlazBlue because of my ATI GPU. Not sure if my KOF MI works or crashes like yours.

I also have Choas Breaker setup, but did it through the loader just fine. As for it's super pixel look did you try using it with the pseudo-GLSL-bezel I made for it in the other TTX thread?

Doesn't fix it, but it at least adds some scanlines to it to help define the pixel-mess it is. The game itself is my favorite of the TTX games.

Ah I just realized I also have Wacky Racers and Half-Life which you don't have listed there. Austin has vids on those two.

 

Last I looked I couldnt find a translation of HalfLife and it looked like it really needed one... is there one out there now?

I'll check out Austin's vids on them

 

I didnt see your bezel, no... just found it tho so will check it out!

 

Can you tell me what settings you are using to work with the bezel?

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Can you tell me what settings you are using to work with the bezel?

Since it's a fullscreen bezel I didn't bother putting an ini in with mine. Works fine without it since the game centers itself. I'll post you one in a moment in that thread if you want it though.

Side question... anyone got this theme: http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/4814-power-instinct-the-commemoration-power-instinct/

I have a theme for it, no idea if it's the one you linked to though.

 

Download link seems broken...

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