DATA PARANOIA/ backing up Hyperspin

[LSDguy]

Hey guys,

Losing all your Hyperspin data can be a scary thought.

I have been backing up my Hyperspin folder religiously. it's about 300gigs without disc games. It takes so long to backup.....

What is your method for backing up your data? Is it Fast and efficient? Any program you use?

I use sync toy but lately I have been having errors with it and my MyCloudEx4 NAS.

Thoughts?

Thanks

Steve

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[dougan78]

My setup: 1 x 250gb Boot drive. 1 x 4tb Roms drive. I use a Synology DS414 with 4 x 3tb drives in Raid 5 for my backups. I backup my boot drive to they Synology every Sunday over 10/100/1000 lan. Keep my roms zipped and archived on the synology as well. I am thinking of adding a USB 4tb drive to keep everything off site as well once my config is finalized. Been working on this since August 2013 and I am not going to reset it all up.

[LSDguy]

Yeah, I bought the MyCloudEx4 and it is damn slow! I use the Ethernet LAN cable to transfer and it just turtles along sometimes and then reaches a point where it just does not work. I tried to upgrade the firmware manually for it and it was problem after problem with the web browser interface.

Anyone else have a quick method or program they use?

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[dougan78]

Sorry I got a DS412+. That My Cloud EX4 seems like a decent devices. I generally get 158.33MB/sec with my Synology. I don't really care about it because It backs up Sunday night while I am sleeping, so I do not watch it.

[LSDguy]

I get 21mb/ max

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[Styphelus]

I bought a 4Tb hard drive and a hard drive dock. Cost me just over $150.00 for everything. Every time I finalize a system, I zip it and copy it over. Once I finish everything I will buy another hard drive and make a second copy of everything again and keep it at my desk at work. If all else fails, I can always buy a complete setup from guys on e-bay (last resort)

[justinwebb]

I kind of cheat when it comes to this as I am a software engineer lol, I wrote my own programs to create 1:1 images of all my drives and store them on my raid array in the basement. Its 25TB all on fiber I have wired through the house. Also have an off site backup that saves important folders.

[BiLbOBaggins]

Hey guys,

Losing all your Hyperspin data can be a scary thought.

I have been backing up my Hyperspin folder religiously. it's about 300gigs without disc games. It takes so long to backup.....

What is your method for backing up your data? Is it Fast and efficient? Any program you use?

I use sync toy but lately I have been having errors with it and my MyCloudEx4 NAS.

Thoughts?

Thanks

Steve

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Steve, are you doing a full backup (overwrite unchanged files) every time?

[njgsx96]

I have a 2TB WD External USB drive I store everything on. I did the backup of everything when I originally set it up. Took about an hour. Now, as I add games I simply add them to the external drive - game, XML, themes, media, etc. I usually wait until I have a few done. All of the games I also have an a separate 2TB drive on my main/personal PC. At work we get "awards" for doing a good job. I am up to $500 this year. I am looking to get a few 4TB drives and parts for a new PC, using that money to supplement it. I am running out of space!

[BiLbOBaggins]

njgsx96 : I'm confused. Were you offering a solution to Steve's problem?

[njgsx96]

njgsx96 : I'm confused. Were you offering a solution to Steve's problem?

I was. get a USB backup drive (or 2) and use that to back up the Hyperspin folder. You may have to reinstall a few games, but should be good. OR image the drive so no reinstall necessary. Store that file on the USB hard drive.

[LSDguy]

Steve, are you doing a full backup (overwrite unchanged files) every time?

Without sync toy, I simply drag and drop the "hyperspin" folder into the same directory. So yes I sort of an overwriting unchanged files because it takes time for windows to recognized unchanged files and prompt me to do otherwise.

Synctoy, was supposed to help that problem by searching for changes first than overwriting only changes. But MyCloudEx4 NAS is plagued with errors and speed issues....this has been documented in amazon reviews.

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[rfancella]

I do not do a full backup of my stuff. I have all my roms and media on anther computer. But I do a manual backup of all my settings and database files. This includes the following directories:

Databases

Settings

HyperLaunch\Data

HyperLaunch\Modules

HyperLaunch\Profiles

HyperLaunch\Settings

Any time I make a change to my setup, I run a batch script that uses RoboCopy:

@ECHO OFF
SETLOCAL

rmdir /s /q Backups\HSBackup6
Echo Backup #6 Deleted
move Backups\HSBackup5 Backups\HSBackup6
Echo Moved Backup 5 to 6
move Backups\HSBackup4 Backups\HSBackup5
Echo Moved Backup 4 to 5
move Backups\HSBackup3 Backups\HSBackup4
Echo Moved Backup 3 to 4
move Backups\HSBackup2 Backups\HSBackup3
Echo Moved Backup 2 to 3
move Backups\HSBackup1 Backups\HSBackup2
Echo Moved Backup 1 to 2
mkdir Backups\HSBackup1

SET _source=Settings
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\Settings

SET _options=/R:0 /W:0 /LOG:Backups\HSBackup1\MyHSBackup.txt /NFL /NDL
:: /R:n :: number of Retries
:: /W:n :: Wait time between retries
:: /LOG :: Output log file
:: /NFL :: No file logging
:: /NDL :: No dir logging

CALL :RUN
Echo HS Settings Done

SET _options=/R:0 /W:0 /LOG+:Backups\HSBackup1\MyHSBackup.txt /NFL /NDL
:: /R:n :: number of Retries
:: /W:n :: Wait time between retries
:: /LOG :: Output log file
:: /NFL :: No file logging
:: /NDL :: No dir logging

SET _source=Databases
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\Databases
CALL :RUN
Echo HS Databases Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Settings
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Settings
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Settings Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Modules
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Modules
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Modules Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Profiles
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Profiles
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Profiles Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Data
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Data
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Data Done

GOTO :EOF


:RUN

SET _what=/COPYALL /B /SEC /MIR
:: /COPYALL :: COPY ALL file info
:: /B :: copy files in Backup mode. 
:: /SEC :: copy files with SECurity
:: /MIR :: MIRror a directory tree 


ROBOCOPY %_source% %_dest% %_what% %_options%



:EOF

Save this file as Backup.cmd in your HyperSpin folder.

I'm sure there is a better way to do it, but this works fine.

It keeps a total of 6 backups and each time it's run, it rotates them up.

I wrote this for myself and another user that keeps having settings files disappear from their system Hope this helps someone.

Thanks,

Ron

[LSDguy]

I do not do a full backup of my stuff. I have all my roms and media on anther computer. But I do a manual backup of all my settings and database files. This includes the following directories:

Databases

Settings

HyperLaunch\Data

HyperLaunch\Modules

HyperLaunch\Profiles

HyperLaunch\Settings

Any time I make a change to my setup, I run a batch script that uses RoboCopy:

@ECHO OFF
SETLOCAL

rmdir /s /q Backups\HSBackup6
Echo Backup #6 Deleted
move Backups\HSBackup5 Backups\HSBackup6
Echo Moved Backup 5 to 6
move Backups\HSBackup4 Backups\HSBackup5
Echo Moved Backup 4 to 5
move Backups\HSBackup3 Backups\HSBackup4
Echo Moved Backup 3 to 4
move Backups\HSBackup2 Backups\HSBackup3
Echo Moved Backup 2 to 3
move Backups\HSBackup1 Backups\HSBackup2
Echo Moved Backup 1 to 2
mkdir Backups\HSBackup1

SET _source=Settings
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\Settings

SET _options=/R:0 /W:0 /LOG:Backups\HSBackup1\MyHSBackup.txt /NFL /NDL
:: /R:n :: number of Retries
:: /W:n :: Wait time between retries
:: /LOG :: Output log file
:: /NFL :: No file logging
:: /NDL :: No dir logging

CALL :RUN
Echo HS Settings Done

SET _options=/R:0 /W:0 /LOG+:Backups\HSBackup1\MyHSBackup.txt /NFL /NDL
:: /R:n :: number of Retries
:: /W:n :: Wait time between retries
:: /LOG :: Output log file
:: /NFL :: No file logging
:: /NDL :: No dir logging

SET _source=Databases
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\Databases
CALL :RUN
Echo HS Databases Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Settings
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Settings
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Settings Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Modules
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Modules
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Modules Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Profiles
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Profiles
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Profiles Done

SET _source=HyperLaunch\Data
SET _dest=Backups\HSBackup1\HyperLaunch\Data
CALL :RUN
Echo HL Data Done

GOTO :EOF


:RUN

SET _what=/COPYALL /B /SEC /MIR
:: /COPYALL :: COPY ALL file info
:: /B :: copy files in Backup mode. 
:: /SEC :: copy files with SECurity
:: /MIR :: MIRror a directory tree 


ROBOCOPY %_source% %_dest% %_what% %_options%



:EOF

Save this file as Backup.cmd in your HyperSpin folder.

I'm sure there is a better way to do it, but this works fine.

It keeps a total of 6 backups and each time it's run, it rotates them up.

I wrote this for myself and another user that keeps having settings files disappear from their system Hope this helps someone.

Thanks,

Ron

This looks promising man! What directory does it save the backups to?

If I do this it should be simple to just back up each new batch of roms and games separately.

Before I was just interested I. Creating a drag and drop hyperspin folder that I can move to any system in the event of nuclear meltdown.

The problem with that is the slowness of my NAS. A bad buy from WD.

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[rfancella]

This looks promising man! What directory does it save the backups to?

If I do this it should be simple to just back up each new batch of roms and games separately.

Before I was just interested I. Creating a drag and drop hyperspin folder that I can move to any system in the event of nuclear meltdown.

The problem with that is the slowness of my NAS. A bad buy from WD.

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It just copies the folders into ...\HyperSpin\Backups

And creates the folder HSBackup1, HSBackup2, etc.

Thanks,

Ron

[Iggy]

It just copies the folders into ...\HyperSpin\Backups

And creates the folder HSBackup1, HSBackup2, etc.

Thanks,

Ron

Hee hee....good ole batch file programming Remember had to do this stuff at my previous position in my company.

[LSDguy]

Rfancella is there a way to create a batch file to robocopy the entire hyperspin folder to drive letter z? I like this batch file stuff,

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[rfancella]

Rfancella is there a way to create a batch file to robocopy the entire hyperspin folder to drive letter z? I like this batch file stuff,

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Do you want to just copy the files that are different?

If so, just:

RoboCopy c:\hyperspin z:\hyperspin /copyall /b /sec /mir

should do it.

Thanks,

Ron

[LSDguy]

Thanks brother! You are a gentleman and a scholar!!

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[BiLbOBaggins]

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Hi Ron, great info!

Robocopy is great for Windows. I use Rsync : http://rsync.samba.org/

It's similar to Robocopy except for it only copies over bit changes. So if you have large file it will not copy the whole thing again, it will only copy that bytes that have changed. Very fast and effective!

[rfancella]

Hi Ron, great info!

Robocopy is great for Windows. I use Rsync : http://rsync.samba.org/

It's similar to Robocopy except for it only copies over bit changes. So if you have large file it will not copy the whole thing again, it will only copy that bytes that have changed. Very fast and effective!

Yea, I use Rsync to backup my Linux servers. But for Windows, RoboCopy does the same thing, and it's included with windows.

Thanks,

Ron

[BiLbOBaggins]

Ron :

Yes to Robocopy being included with windows

No to "they do the same thing". I might be wrong but as I understand it, Robocopy will copy an entire file if there is any sort of change in it. Rsync will only copy over the bit changes instead of copying the entire file which results in much faster sync process. Does that make sense?

I might be wrong about the Robocopy not doing bit changes as well but that is how I understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Kudos to your linux boxes

I <3 the linny

[rfancella]

Yes to Robocopy include with windows

No to "they do the same thing" I might be wrong but as I understand it. Robocopy will copy an entire file if there is any sort of change in it. Rsync will only copy over the bit changes which results in much faster sync process. Does that make sense?

I might be wrong about the Robocopy not doing bit changes as well but that is how I understand it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Kudos to your linux boxes

I <3 the linny

Yes you are correct. Robocopy will copy the entire file if it changes. Not just the parts of the files that are different. I thought Rsync copies the entire file also, at least thats what I see in my logs. Unless i'm missing a switch?

Me also, I have three running CentOS 5.10 on all three. Two web and email servers and one backup server. And I work on a bunch of EL6 boxes at work.

Thanks,

Ron

[intenn]

Curious if anyone has had a similar issue.  I am doing test backup and restores going between two internal drives in the same system.  At this time just coping the folders to an external “connected” drive.  When restoring the two folders (rocket launcher and hyperspin) to the new drive I get the “error waiting for the window ahk_class emulator name” but the games still loads in a windowed background, this is both direct from rocket launcher and hyperspin.  Go back to the drive that the backup was made from and it works fine.