Delays

[ztoman1]

Hello!  Rebuilding the software portion of my cab including a W10 upgrade, and now having some issues I didn't previously have in Win7.  I did d/l and install 1.5.1 so it's not that.

Issue #1: After the intro video there is about a 5-10 second delay where nothing I do works and the theme doesn't load (up/down for example to scroll) but then after that delay all of the buttons/directionals I hit happen and the theme loads.  This also happens after entering a new wheel (Main Wheel into NES games for example) or going up a wheel level (Leaving NES games and going back to the main wheel).

Issue #2: When loading a game (even like a small NES 7z file), it takes roughly a minute for the loading screen to come up.  While waiting I can go look at other games thinking it didn't accept my keypress, but then while looking at another game all of a sudden the loading screen will come up and the game will launch.

Neither of these happened on Win7, and I'm not sure why they are happening now.  Keyboard delay is disabled in HyperHQ.  Any advice would be appreciated.  Latest nVidia drivers for a GTX670.  Intel Graphics powering marquee monitor (haven't setup hypermarquee yet though so nothing happening on that monitor yet).  Using WiniPAC for keymapping.  If there's any other info you need from me, please let me know and I will supply.  Thank You!

[Creezz67]

Check what see if you currently have Windows 10 version 1803 release date: Microsoft has officially confirmed that the Windows 10 April 2018 Update (version 1803) 

If you do, see if you can force an update to Windows 1809 via Windows updates, as this may be the issue on Windows 10.

Example, I had MAME games taking approx 30 seconds to load for months, now they load instantly since my computer got the 1809 update.

If it's not this, ensure you have disabled/set exclusions in Windows Defender, Firewall, UAC etc and also same for any Anti Virus. Also try to give Hyperspin.exe admin rights to see if it resolves issue.

Good luck.

[ztoman1]

I have 1809.  I set exclusions in Firewall, disabled Defender, UAC, and no AV.  This made it less of a delay but nothing like when I was on Win7.  With Win7 as soon as the wheel came up I could move it.  Strongly reconsidering going back to Win7 since there's nothing else installed on the PC.  Did have MSMPEng.exe and TiWorker.exe taking up a fair bit of CPU utilization, but that stopped after making those changes.

[Creezz67]

Also I see you are using a GTX670 ?

For Hyperspin and also Windows 10 generally you may want to consider upgrading it to GTX 1050ti or better, especially for later systems.

The better your specs, e.g. cpu, ram, gpu the better Hyperspin will run. I use a  GTX 1050ti and that runs everything I have thrown at it from NES up to PS3,WiiU etc and the Hyperspin wheel itself is smooth.

Also check HyperHQ to see what you have the wheel set at, e.g. best, good etc as lowering this setting may help if its on maximum.

[KillerQ]

I have found that disabling logging under Rocket Launcher solved a lot of these types of issues for me. 

[ztoman1]

2 hours ago, KillerQ said:

I have found that disabling logging under Rocket Launcher solved a lot of these types of issues for me. 

I will try that as I believe it's currently set to troubleshooting and can definitely be reduced as I believe that is the most intensive logging.  I'm not thinking that will impact wheel movement since rlauncher will not have run yet though.  I may have a 970 somewhere which would definitely be an improvement, although I had no issues with the 670 when I had Win7.  The cabinet is meant to only run systems up to Saturn I think with no extra controllers, just the arcade sticks/buttons.  For newer systems I have those in a different room.

[DomusdelCapo]

Solución simple usa Win 7 ultimate 64 Bits deshabilita varios servicios innecesarios para el funcionamiento de un árcade osea "CAPALO", Usa SSD en "C"como principal y para las otras unidades HDD es un (Problema de compatibilidad conocido con Win 10 y sus actualizaciones) Con respecto a la descompresión y compresión 7z es siempre mas pesada que zip, Instalate todos los tiempos de ejecucion (All in One) actualiza  tus DRIVERS RUMTIMES & Codec Pack Full  Desactiva el UAC antivirus firewall y no tendrás problemas. Ademas no comentaste las especificaciones de tu PC. 

[Rowr14]

He isn't wrong about the solution being windows 7

Seems to me the way it's going with these windows updates more and more things are falling apart or outright breaking. The option becomes windows 7 as a long time solution or dealing with trying to fix windows 10 problems over and over again.

18 hours ago, cataclysm67 said:

Also I see you are using a GTX670 ?

For Hyperspin and also Windows 10 generally you may want to consider upgrading it to GTX 1050ti or better, especially for later systems.

The better your specs, e.g. cpu, ram, gpu the better Hyperspin will run. I use a  GTX 1050ti and that runs everything I have thrown at it from NES up to PS3,WiiU etc and the Hyperspin wheel itself is smooth.

Also check HyperHQ to see what you have the wheel set at, e.g. best, good etc as lowering this setting may help if its on maximum.

I'm not convinced you need anything anywhere near that beefy as a rule at least in regard to hyperspin. I'm running one install on a gtx 260 and one on a laptop with integrated graphics with no issues.

Obviously in regards to emulating newer systems it's a different scenario, but HyperSpin itself a gtx 670 should be absolutely no problem.

[KillerQ]

it most definitely impacts wheel movement!

[KillerQ]

12 hours ago, ztoman1 said:

I will try that as I believe it's currently set to troubleshooting and can definitely be reduced as I believe that is the most intensive logging.  I'm not thinking that will impact wheel movement since rlauncher will not have run yet though.  I may have a 970 somewhere which would definitely be an improvement, although I had no issues with the 670 when I had Win7.  The cabinet is meant to only run systems up to Saturn I think with no extra controllers, just the arcade sticks/buttons.  For newer systems I have those in a different room.

it most definitely impacts wheel movement!

[thatman84]

@ztoman1

Have you made sure hyperspin, rocketlauncer are set to run as asminstrator and exceptions made in any firewall or anti virus. I tend to just apply those to the whole drive

[Creezz67]

6 hours ago, Rowr14 said:

He isn't wrong about the solution being windows 7

Seems to me the way it's going with these windows updates more and more things are falling apart or outright breaking. The option becomes windows 7 as a long time solution or dealing with trying to fix windows 10 problems over and over again.

I'm not convinced you need anything anywhere near that beefy as a rule at least in regard to hyperspin. I'm running one install on a gtx 260 and one on a laptop with integrated graphics with no issues.

Obviously in regards to emulating newer systems it's a different scenario, but HyperSpin itself a gtx 670 should be absolutely no problem.

If you just want to play with the Hyperspin wheel and run NES and SNES etc then your graphics card is fine.

If you actually want to play other systems like Gamecube, Wii, PS3, Sega Saturn,3DS and many others, you need a decent graphics card and the 1050ti is excellent without breaking the bank.

Also Windows 10 seems to use a lot more resources than Windows 7 so you need 8gb ram or more if possible IMO.

If you are only going to play the older systems I suggest you go back to Windows 7 for better performance, but 10 is much better for newer systems if you have a decent setup.

[Rowr14]

4 hours ago, cataclysm67 said:

If you just want to play with the Hyperspin wheel and run NES and SNES etc then your graphics card is fine.

If you actually want to play other systems like Gamecube, Wii, PS3, Sega Saturn,3DS and many others, you need a decent graphics card and the 1050ti is excellent without breaking the bank.

Also Windows 10 seems to use a lot more resources than Windows 7 so you need 8gb ram or more if possible IMO.

If you are only going to play the older systems I suggest you go back to Windows 7 for better performance, but 10 is much better for newer systems if you have a decent setup.

Yes I agree any emulating of newer systems will require newer hardware.

The op is talking about lag in HyperSpin itself or even when opening NES files though, I just wanted to point out that those things should have nothing to do with the hardware as a gtx 670 should be more than sufficient to run HyperSpin smoothly.

Windows 10 is a little more resource intensive, although from what I researched it's actually suprisingly quite nimble and not too much of a step up from Windows 7, 8 gb of ram is nice though it's not necessary depending on what you are emulating.

I think the use case for many people is emulating older systems due to cost and rarity, whereas systems from the last few generations are still available for quite cheap and the emulation itself has not been perfected and requires more brute force. In this case it is satisfactory to have an install that doesn't require newer parts and the actual system requirements for HyperSpin are low.

I'm not against windows 10 or anything, but I have noticed in recent times more and more problems with hyperspin compatibility manifesting itself, I mean we all saw a win 10 update literally break it without any warning. That's ok if you are happy to contantly come back and problem solve when the newest update breaks something, but I think many people prefer to set and forget it in which case windows 7 is a bit more future proof.

[DomusdelCapo]

Una de las cualidades para usar un frontend es su "ESTABILIDAD", Realmente leo a muchas personas en los facebook group que literalmente sufren con Win 10 y sus actualizaciones de esto o aquello y no solo en HS,  Problemas de compatibilidad que no he visto en Win 7 es así de simple.  Sacrifico juegos de PC que seguramente solo funcionan con Win 10 pero no los extraño. Los emuladores  son mas compatibles con Win 7 al menos es mi experiencia de años. Hay que separar dos cosas la emulación propia de los múltiples emuladores o simuladores y el funcionamiento de HS.

[Geego]

On 1/25/2019 at 1:38 AM, DomusdelCapo said:

Solución simple usa Win 7 ultimate 64 Bits deshabilita varios servicios innecesarios para el funcionamiento de un árcade osea "CAPALO", Usa SSD en "C"como principal y para las otras unidades HDD es un (Problema de compatibilidad conocido con Win 10 y sus actualizaciones) Con respecto a la descompresión y compresión 7z es siempre mas pesada que zip, Instalate todos los tiempos de ejecucion (All in One) actualiza  tus DRIVERS RUMTIMES & Codec Pack Full  Desactiva el UAC antivirus firewall y no tendrás problemas. Ademas no comentaste las especificaciones de tu PC. 

By the way, this problem may well be due to antivirus.