Hyperspin not working on Windows 10 1903

[madduke]

Hi Guys! 

Just to report (I've seen a couple of Spanish people also reported in Spanish) and I can confirm that Hyperspin doesn't work on 1903 Windows 10.  

It just doesn't start.  Starting from Rocket Launcher works normally.  Basically same thing that happened last year with 1803? version. 

Hope someone can make a patch. 

[Honosuseri]

I'm using Win 10 Pro 1903, Hyperspin works just fine

[Creezz67]

Same here, Windows 10 Home 64bit, 1903 works perfectly

[madduke]

It's fast lane so it's coming in the future

 

Tested on 1 AMD Ryzen 1700 and 1 Intel 8550U PC to confirm. 

[Honosuseri]

15 hours ago, madduke said:

It's fast lane so it's coming in the future

 

Tested on 1 AMD Ryzen 1700 and 1 Intel 8550U PC to confirm. 

You've opted to be in the "fast ring" so you're effectively a beta tester. You should be telling Microsoft that the update has broken an application from launching, so it can be fixed and not be an issue for those in the "slow ring".

[Aorin]

HyperTheme has  broken since 1803 builds, so it's likely more stuff will stop working as Microsoft updates their OS.

Maybe @jhabers could investigate this?

[Creezz67]

17 hours ago, Aorin said:

HyperTheme has  broken since 1803 builds, so it's likely more stuff will stop working as Microsoft updates their OS.

Maybe @jhabers could investigate this?

I just created a quick theme using HyperTheme on Windows 10 Home 64bit, on version 1903 build 18362.295 and it works fine here.

[Aorin]

3 hours ago, cataclysm67 said:

I just created a quick theme using HyperTheme on Windows 10 Home 64bit, on version 1903 build 18362.295 and it works fine here.

Another user said the same about a previous build, but it works only in the home versions, which still isn`t ideal.

Thanks for letting us know!

[Honosuseri]

3 hours ago, cataclysm67 said:

I just created a quick theme using HyperTheme on Windows 10 Home 64bit, on version 1903 build 18362.295 and it works fine here.

I've been using Hypertheme, same build Windows 10 Pro. I saw it was said the simple wheel creator application also wasn't compatible on Windows 10 but I have it working

[Aorin]

10 hours ago, Honosuseri said:

I've been using Hypertheme, same build Windows 10 Pro. I saw it was said the simple wheel creator application also wasn't compatible on Windows 10 but I have it working

That`s curious, I even tried Hypertheme on 1903 Home edition and it just was blank as others mentioned.

Would you guys who have it working mind zipping and uploading your Hypertheme so I can try it?

[Honosuseri]

8 minutes ago, Aorin said:

That`s curious, I even tried Hypertheme on 1903 Home edition and it just was blank as others mentioned.

Would you guys who have it working mind zipping and uploading your Hypertheme so I can try it?

It's not zipped just the .exe

https://mega.nz/#!PElWwQjD!dodCZmuez0bkqoMMxxl_hXfiNySf26A9y8NZC5iXhz0

[Aorin]

8 minutes ago, Honosuseri said:

It's not zipped just the .exe

Thanks!

I just tried it and it doesn`t work, just a blank window.

You seem to have a different setup, while I`m on Intel and Nvidia, you seem to be using an AMD CPU, anyway I don`t think it should break this application.

Did you do anything, like, that could possibly make it work or it just works without any issue?

[Honosuseri]

20 minutes ago, Aorin said:

Thanks!

I just tried it and it doesn`t work, just a blank window.

You seem to have a different setup, while I`m on Intel and Nvidia, you seem to be using an AMD CPU, anyway I don`t think it should break this application.

Did you do anything, like, that could possibly make it work or it just works without any issue?

Why do you think I have AMD? Rig is Intel i7 2600K 4.5GHz with a GTX 960 4GB.

No special settings unless there's something in the HyperTheme folder config file. Simple wheel creator I did tinker in the compatibility tab though.

***EDIT***
Maybe the .NET frameworks and visual C++ have something to do with it. I might have stuff installed you guys don't

[Aorin]

6 hours ago, Honosuseri said:

Why do you think I have AMD? Rig is Intel i7 2600K a GTX 960.

No special settings unless there's something in the HyperTheme folder config file. Simple wheel creator I did tinker in the compatibility tab though.
 

OK, it was the other guy with the AMD CPU, I`ll update the 1903 frameworks so we can check which ones you have and maybe find the culprit.

Thanks again.

[Aorin]

13 hours ago, Honosuseri said:

***EDIT***
Maybe the .NET frameworks and visual C++ have something to do with it. I might have stuff installed you guys don't

Still no luck here, I checked and downloaded all NetFramework and VC Redists I could find, even x86 versions.

I believe this very same Windows 10 Home build was mentioned earlier as working for Hypertheme.

 

 

[Honosuseri]

We're build .295 yours is showing .329

[Aorin]

Probably it has nothing to do with HyperTheme issues, I also tried previous builds as well.

[Honosuseri]

3 hours ago, Aorin said:

Probably it has nothing to do with HyperTheme issues, I also tried previous builds as well.

Pass, I'm out of ideas

[Aorin]

5 hours ago, Honosuseri said:

Pass, I'm out of ideas

Anything different in your HyperTheme ini file? 

Are you running it from the Hyperspin root folder?

[Configuration]
DefaultThemeDir = .\Media\MAME\Themes
DefaultScreenshotDir = .\HyperTheme\Screenshots
DefaultOutputDir = .\HyperTheme\MyThemes
DefaultVideoDir = .\Media\MAME\Video
DefaultUsername = Username
Config=1296|696|1|-8|-8|1|1|0|0
Shortcut1Path = .\HyperTheme\MyThemes
Shortcut1Name = My Themes
Shortcut2Path = .\Media\MAME\Themes
Shortcut2Name = MAME
Shortcut3Path = .\Media\Main Menu\Themes
Shortcut3Name = Main Menu
Colors = 0x3399FF|0xCC3300|0xFFCC00|0xFF0000
DefaultSnapshotSize = low
 

[madduke]

On 9/2/2019 at 4:12 PM, Honosuseri said:

You've opted to be in the "fast ring" so you're effectively a beta tester. You should be telling Microsoft that the update has broken an application from launching, so it can be fixed and not be an issue for those in the "slow ring".

Yeah. And that is going to happen?  :) 

The point is that if this is happening to me in the Fast Ring that it will most likely happen to everybody in the future. That's why I've cried wolf here.   So hopefully it gets resolved before it comes to that :)

I've tested with both AMD Ryzen and Intel based machines and it's the same in the fast ring.     My Arcade machine is on a regular version of windows 10 pro 64bit (just like my NAS which has the roms) and there it works normally on the latest stable update. (Also, one is Intel Sandy and other AMD Ryzen.).

[Honosuseri]

20 minutes ago, madduke said:

Yeah. And that is going to happen? 

The point is that if this is happening to me in the Fast Ring that it will most likely happen to everybody in the future. That's why I've cried wolf here.   So hopefully it gets resolved before it comes to that

I've tested with both AMD Ryzen and Intel based machines and it's the same in the fast ring.     My Arcade machine is on a regular version of windows 10 pro 64bit (just like my NAS which has the roms) and there it works normally on the latest stable update. (Also, one is Intel Sandy and other AMD Ryzen.).

Don't appreciate the sarcasm. I've made a note to avoid assisting you in the future.

Hyperspin was seen as a virus to Windows Defender until a forum member (not a dev or mod) reported the error to M$. So yes it does actually help rather than just posting on here

[Spawk]

Anything different in your HyperTheme ini file? 
Are you running it from the Hyperspin root folder?
[Configuration]
DefaultThemeDir = .\Media\MAME\Themes
DefaultScreenshotDir = .\HyperTheme\Screenshots
DefaultOutputDir = .\HyperTheme\MyThemes
DefaultVideoDir = .\Media\MAME\Video
DefaultUsername = Username
Config=1296|696|1|-8|-8|1|1|0|0
Shortcut1Path = .\HyperTheme\MyThemes
Shortcut1Name = My Themes
Shortcut2Path = .\Media\MAME\Themes
Shortcut2Name = MAME
Shortcut3Path = .\Media\Main Menu\Themes
Shortcut3Name = Main Menu
Colors = 0x3399FF|0xCC3300|0xFFCC00|0xFF0000
DefaultSnapshotSize = low
 

I almost wish i had win10 to help out more... almost :-)

Even on win7 I vaguely remember having to turn off visual enhancments like "aero" and "desktop composition"... cant remember exactly what program('s) didnt like them though. Win10 have anything like that in a control panel?

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[Spawk]

OK after some reading, it surely isn't Desktop Composition (Windows Desktop Manager)... seems there is no way to turn it off on win10!

Damn, wish I could remember why I had to turn it off... sorry for interrupting.

[Creezz67]

9 hours ago, Aorin said:

Anything different in your HyperTheme ini file? 

Are you running it from the Hyperspin root folder?

[Configuration]
DefaultThemeDir = .\Media\MAME\Themes
DefaultScreenshotDir = .\HyperTheme\Screenshots
DefaultOutputDir = .\HyperTheme\MyThemes
DefaultVideoDir = .\Media\MAME\Video
DefaultUsername = Username
Config=1296|696|1|-8|-8|1|1|0|0
Shortcut1Path = .\HyperTheme\MyThemes
Shortcut1Name = My Themes
Shortcut2Path = .\Media\MAME\Themes
Shortcut2Name = MAME
Shortcut3Path = .\Media\Main Menu\Themes
Shortcut3Name = Main Menu
Colors = 0x3399FF|0xCC3300|0xFFCC00|0xFF0000
DefaultSnapshotSize = low
 

Try putting just the HyperTheme.exe wherever you have Hyperspin.exe

Then make sure the HyperTheme folder with all other files is separate but still in same folder as hyperspin and hypertheme.exe.

Then try running it. I tried running exe  first from folder directly, but got blank screen, then when  I ran it from the exe that was in same folder as Hyperspin.exe it works fine.

Worth a try.

[Aorin]

8 hours ago, cataclysm67 said:

Try putting just the HyperTheme.exe wherever you have Hyperspin.exe

Then make sure the HyperTheme folder with all other files is separate but still in same folder as hyperspin and hypertheme.exe.

Then try running it. I tried running exe  first from folder directly, but got blank screen, then when  I ran it from the exe that was in same folder as Hyperspin.exe it works fine.

Worth a try.

Yeah mine is always in Hyperspin root folder, I tried it in many ways.

It`s clear HyperTheme is broken on Windows 10 for some time. The only way I see it working again is updating the application itself from the source.