zauche Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Hi everyone ! I'm playing Future Pinball for one week now, but do not get better framerates than 22fps with disabling filtering and some other graphic stuff. I'm using the integrated videochip of my i3-2120T and that's the problem for sure. Due to the fact that I do not want to spend too much money for a videocard I do not really need and I want to have one that does not produce too much heat I found this one. http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/pid/billiger/info/p812512_2048MB-Gainward-GeForce-GTX-650-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-.html What's your opinion about this card and would I be able to play all future pinball tables with good framerates with it ? My system: ----------------- i3-2120T 2x 2,6 Ghz AsRock Z68M-ITX/HT 1155 Mainboard 4GB RAM (now -1 GB because of the integrated graphics-chip) Win XP - 32 bit 21,4" TFT (1600x1200) 120GB Corsair Force III SSD Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTPPC Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 gts250 off ebay for <$50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark13 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Uhm... screen resolution? For fullHD (1920*1080) you need a really good videocard. My 9800gtx+ (same as gts250) has some slowdown/stuttering even at 1360*768 with heavier tables as "3 angels". Probably the best bang for bucks by now is a 650ti but in fullHD I don't think it can do 60fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I'm running at 720 with an old AGP Radeon x800Pro. Most tables run around the 50-100 FPS mark with a few that needed videos and holograms removed to achieve that. I'm also running a P4 3.0 ghz for a processor so that isn't helping much either. Your system specs look much better than mine. I did disable a lot of XP services and stuff a set the visuals to performance etc to keep the background load down, this helped. Turn off Indexing, turn off your antivirus if not connected to the internet, set the visuals to performance, disable any background wallpaper, turn off background apps on startup, use the old windows classic look instead of Aero...etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 I play on 1600x1200 - ordered the GTX 650 now - Hope it will do it's job.... The "ti"-version is to expensive and produces to much heat. Benchmarks: -------------- ---> HD i3-2120t ..... 241 points (used right now) Radeon x800 ..... 385-731 points (16 different versions) GeForce GTS 250 ..... 912 points GeForce 9800 GTX ..... 1109/1134 points (2 different versions) ---> GeForce GTX 650 ..... 1884 points (max. 64W power output) GeForce GTX 650 ti ..... 2754 points (max. 110W power output) Benchmark-results from PassMark on these pages: -------------------------------------------------- http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/video_lookup.php?gpu=Intel+HD+i3-2120 http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogies2 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Good Luck - You will probably be very dissapointed. Future Pinball BEST video card is the nVidia 285GTX. When you get better (400 series and up) video cards, the drivers won't work well. You then end up having to take options off in order to stop the artifacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I have FP running with no artifacts on a GTX 460 on Windows 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogies2 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Wow, I just verified with my system - WinXP w/480gtx and it runs perfect too. That's weird, I remember using a 460 and having all kinda problems until I disabled one of the graphic options and it looked bad Disregard my previous statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 15, 2012 Author Share Posted November 15, 2012 @boogies: good to hear - got a little bit shocked by your previous statement. Thanks to all for your help - hope I'll be happy with the GTX 650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogZter Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I would also recommend the GTX560 for a first card to display the playfield with. As regards backglass and DMD you could use a cheaper GTX650 or even a 8800XT or 9600 series. They will work perfectly fine. With the latest Nvidia drivers support for a 560 plus a second 650 is easier though since they are fully compatible with the 306.XX driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 OK .. Thanks, but I only have a 21" in my arcade-cab. No need for a second card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 AMAZING !!! -- The upgrade has been well worth it. I do not have a max. of 27fps at medium details anymore. ---> Now I have 170-200fps at maximum details, filtering,... at the resolution of 1600x1200. The card is also very silent and doesn't produce to much heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Good to know, thanks for the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 My brother has an old Geforce 8800GT running on his Q6600. He has at least 120 fps at the "Medieval Madness"-table (also set to max details). This card is very cheap to get on ebay but produces much more heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 23, 2012 Author Share Posted November 23, 2012 @jasonsmith: The slowest table "3 Angels" runs with a minimum of 96fps at my GTX 650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonsmith Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Yep that's my slowest as well, around 30FPS, just on the edge of not being playable. EDIT: Actually STTNG is the worse, it starts out at 60+ then falls to around 20 after a few minutes, super frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zauche Posted November 27, 2012 Author Share Posted November 27, 2012 I've tested the STTNG table yesterday - Frames drop from 164 to about 124. (about 40 fps like you said) It's still running about 30fps faster than the "3 Angels" table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlords Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I don't understand people recommending all these high end cards to play a pinball emulator. I can run 3 angels with high settings with an old Pentium 4, one gig of ram, and a Ge-force series 6 6800 with only 256 megs of ram. It plays just fine. P.S Yes I know this is and old thread. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JogZter Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I cannot imagine that we are talking 3 monitor setup + 1920p in arcade render mode. This is basically impossible with the setup ur talking about. With BAM running it would be even a lesser framrate. Are you talking desktop mode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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