Pulling my hair out...going from 1.2 to 1.4...need some help

[poomobile]

Hello:

 

I am not even sure why I am doing this...but have some time off and thought about a clean redo of my cab after setting up 1.2 in 2009.

 

It looks like everything has changed and I am feeling pretty dumb

 

A few things I need help with:

 

- Can I use my old HyperLaunch.ahk 1.05 file somehow?  This rocketlaunch is a nightmare.  Keep getting ahk errors when trying to run mame and it hates my game lists as they don't match the xml's.

 

- I am having trouble with some of themes.  Example:  The main wheel for Ataril 2600 has no video playing just says video available at Emu movies.  I have all the videos and the videos play for each game when scrolling through the wheel..  How do I get it back?

 

half my emulators won't launch with rocketlaunch.  what a nightmare  any advice would be appreciated

 

 

[rfancella]

Hello and welcome to the forums!

I don't see why you can't use your old HyperLaunch executable, so long as you use the old modules as well.

 

If you are using the old HL and modules, why even change HS?

 

As for RL, I think it's pretty easy to get up and running.  Yes, there are probably a ton of emulators that need to be updated, but the ones that do, there is probably a good reason to update them. 

 

Thanks,

Ron

 

 

Hello:

 

I am not even sure why I am doing this...but have some time off and thought about a clean redo of my cab after setting up 1.2 in 2009.

 

It looks like everything has changed and I am feeling pretty dumb

 

A few things I need help with:

 

- Can I use my old HyperLaunch.ahk 1.05 file somehow?  This rocketlaunch is a nightmare.  Keep getting ahk errors when trying to run mame and it hates my game lists as they don't match the xml's.

 

- I am having trouble with some of themes.  Example:  The main wheel for Ataril 2600 has no video playing just says video available at Emu movies.  I have all the videos and the videos play for each game when scrolling through the wheel..  How do I get it back?

 

half my emulators won't launch with rocketlaunch.  what a nightmare  any advice would be appreciated

[SIMPLYAUSTIN]

Good luck mate. If your stuck, give me a shout

[sportsfan949]

You've got a lot of things going on here.  Best taken one at a time. I am running HS 1.3 as I was having some issues with the 1.4beta. Also running the latest RL and everything is running smoothly.

 

Reading your issues I would look at your video files and make sure they are MP4 and not the older flv format. Updating the media and databases with Hypersync will get you to the HS naming standards, hope your roms followed the HS naming conventions. RL is worth the upgrade. Modules are all new and most EMU's need updated from 2009.

 

PM me if you need help.

[poomobile]

Thanks for the quick replies.  I have downloaded all the latest mp4 video files and been converting my rom sets with Don's tools...but it sure is a process...

 

I think I need to update some of my emulators...but do I need to update my mame build?  I am using 0.137 but I don't even remember how compile.

 

I might will take you guys up on the PM offer....

[32assassin]

Hello:

 

I am not even sure why I am doing this...but have some time off and thought about a clean redo of my cab after setting up 1.2 in 2009.

 

It looks like everything has changed and I am feeling pretty dumb

 

A few things I need help with:

 

- Can I use my old HyperLaunch.ahk 1.05 file somehow?  This rocketlaunch is a nightmare.  Keep getting ahk errors when trying to run mame and it hates my game lists as they don't match the xml's.

 

- I am having trouble with some of themes.  Example:  The main wheel for Ataril 2600 has no video playing just says video available at Emu movies.  I have all the videos and the videos play for each game when scrolling through the wheel..  How do I get it back?

 

half my emulators won't launch with rocketlaunch.  what a nightmare  any advice would be appreciated

 

 

 

sorry to tell you this but if you are gong from 1.2 to  1.4;  you  are better of doing a build from scratch.

are you even running Hyperlaunch 2 with Hyperspin version 1.2?

 

Your game lists (XMLs) are the only thing you can keep (if you have custom XMLs),  Even though I recommend you getting new ones, More than likely every single one has been updated.

 

check to see the file names on your disc systems;  if you have a naming scheme with 

Game Name  (disc 1) (USA)  -->  they will not work with rocketlauncher.   Rocketaluncher AND Hyperlaunch 2 need the naming scheme of --> Game Name (USA)  (disc 1)

 

 

 

The only way you will get name errors with MAME is if you are using an XML from 2009 and a rom set from 2015.  

Make sure your XML matches your MAME and rom set.

 

 

 

finaly when asking for help please post your logs, 

[Spawk]

Definitely agree with assassin, setting up from scratch is best idea. I have setup from scratch 3 or 4 times and each time i have a better understanding of what is being loaded from where. IMO RocketLauncher is way better than HL and once you get use to it, you will not want to go back.

If you have been keeping your folder structure clean, updating should be fairly easy. If you haven't been, then take this opportunity to do so. It will help with future updating.

I would update all your xml's except mame. I also use an older version and am very careful to not update that one. There are tools to match your romset to the names in the updated xml's, Hypersync will get the missing artwork, and a program named "rom folder cleaner" will even remove excess/renamed media.

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[Metalzoic]

I agree. I went from 1.3 to 1.4 and RocketLauncher and did it from scratch to save myself the hassle of updating. Had it done in a day and no real issues doing it that way.

[Runadumb]

Agreed, start over from scratch.  I started mine last week and while it wasn't problem free I got the easier systems set up and working.  Hoping to setup the CD systems this weekend.  

 

Follow Austin's guides.  I haven't yet been but I plan the watch them before I do anything else just in case there are better ways to do it.

[poomobile]

sorry to tell you this but if you are gong from 1.2 to  1.4;  you  are better of doing a build from scratch.

are you even running Hyperlaunch 2 with Hyperspin version 1.2?

 

Your game lists (XMLs) are the only thing you can keep (if you have custom XMLs),  Even though I recommend you getting new ones, More than likely every single one has been updated.

 

check to see the file names on your disc systems;  if you have a naming scheme with 

Game Name  (disc 1) (USA)  -->  they will not work with rocketlauncher.   Rocketaluncher AND Hyperlaunch 2 need the naming scheme of --> Game Name (USA)  (disc 1)

 

 

 

The only way you will get name errors with MAME is if you are using an XML from 2009 and a rom set from 2015.  

Make sure your XML matches your MAME and rom set.

 

 

 

finaly when asking for help please post your logs, 

 

Can you please help me understand what I am missing in the xml process?  I have downloaded the mame xml file from hyperspin and then run it through don's hyperspin tools to match up with my rom set  I then create a new xml file and drop into hyperspin mame database folder.  all the roms load up in rocketlauncher as green but when I try to run one of them, I get an error that says "error waiting for the window ahk_class mame"

 

I think it has something to do with the module mame.ahk file

 

not sure what log I need to post for you guys.  thanks for you assistance

[SIMPLYAUSTIN]

If you are on version 1.3 of Hyperspin and using rocketlauncher. Ticking the ROMS ONLY box can give you an error like you said above. If you get any more issues or not solved Gove me a shout mate 

 

It's more than likely not your xml or Rom names but a bug in rocketlauncher and Hyperspin.

[Spawk]

I would update all your xml's except mame. I also use an older version and am very careful to not update that one. There are tools to match your romset to the names in the updated xml's, Hypersync will get the missing artwork, and a program named "rom folder cleaner" will even remove excess/renamed media.

Wow you updated the 1 xml I suggested not to do... if you downloaded the latest xml, then it's expecting you to have the latest set (I belive that's 0.164). Simply renaming mame roms will not work. You are suppose to use an appropriate xml for the version you have... which you already had if you were setup already. Now you have a 2009 mame set renamed to new names? Headache city... Mame is one of the systems you never ever, ever ever have to run through any rom renamers. You may have to rebuild via clrmamepro or just download the new set. Do you have a backup of the old xml? Does Dons Tools have an undo option or at least a log of what files were changed?

[poomobile]

I do have the original xml file backed up.  I still run into the exact same problem when I use that xml in my hyperspin database...

 

when I ran Don's tools, I only used it to build a hyperspin compatible xml file that only has my roms listed.  I did not change any of my rom names...

[Spawk]

Ok good... well if all your roms match the names in your xml, all should be good. It is just a simple setting somewhere you overlooked... and there is not much to do for Mame settings.

Point RL to your rom path and point the module to your mame.exe and select Mame as default emulator.

I hope when you say you went from 1.2 to 1.4 you started with a new folder, and not simply overwrite stuff in your old HS folder as that would cause problems for sure. The only thing you copy from old setup should be the "Media" folder.

When troubleshooting any system, I always make sure stuff works in a specific order:

1. Does it run correctly outside HS/RL?

Start it up and play a couple of games. Make sure the controls are all how you like. If you get any errors here, you will need to fix them before going any further.

2. Does it run in RL?

If step 1 is right, this should be very easy. Just point RL to the right location of your roms and mame.exe. If you are completely stuck on this step, try removing the Mame system altogether and re-add it using your own xml to import a database.

3. Run in HS!

After the first 2 steps are done, open HSHQ and put in your rompath and extension. I also use "roms only" under navigation. This allows me to delete games that I do not want to show in the wheel.

[poomobile]

My mame works perfectly on it's own...and also perfectly through hyperspin if I bypass rocketlaunch and select "normal"

 

it's the damn rocketlaunch I can't get running!  All my roms are green in the rom list, I just keep getting that ahk error.  I think it is the mame module that isn't working...I don't know how to change the module

[Spawk]

Mame is working great for me through RL so I don't think it's the module. You definitely have a setting set somewhere in RL that the module doesn't like though. Go through it with a fine tooth comb! Start at "global" -> "emulators" -> "mame" and make sure the path to mame.exe is there and there is no exclamation point.

Just out of curiosity, you do have RL setup correctly right? Under RocketLauncherUI -> frontends, hyperspin is set as both default and active?

If all else fails and you can live without fade or pause, just keep it on normal launch.

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[poomobile]

Well, I just tried my 2600 with MESS emulator...same issue as mame.  I downloaded a new version of the MESS emulator and the problem went away.  I noticed in rocketlauncher under the modules tab, i saw that the mess.ahk file was for emulator 0.161 which is the latest version of mess.

 

The mame module is also for 0.161...which leads me to believe that I have to recompile a 0.161 mame build or find a module version that supports my mame.

 

Can you download older modules?

 

Thanks!

 

Also, can someone pm me an invite to somewhere?  I have been lost since UG disappeared...not sure where to get proper sets anymore

[Spawk]

I still use version 0.155 so again I doubt it is the module. Using older modules is never a good idea. The module should use whatever names it gets from the xml. You should try to remove the MAME system from RL completely and re-add it. Name the system "MAME" (all caps!), leave select emulator and select rompath empty. At Database creation, put the path to your xml (Not the new one you Dl'd but the old one that matches your romset). Re-input your rompath and mame.exe and then test again.

If this doesn't work, I am at a total loss here... Mame was one of the easiest to setup for me.

In any case, shoot me PM with your email address and I will send you a BitGamer invite. For Mame however, you will need to go to PleasureDome. It is not a private tracker so just sign up.