pixelmagic Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 A few questions...- Why would I go this route over $1 relays? - The LED-Wiz is not really a switch. Its just a voltage increast. Would that still work? - Handy with electronics... got a schematic? - Durability and speed, a OPTO-coupler is designed for this kind of things and the trial gives you the high power switch capability, if you need it. I will use some original parts, a flipper uses about 1 amp at 12 volt to flip. Cutting out the relay means also direct control without any extra mechanical parts - I think it would perfectly work with the LED-wiz. - Check out the link that is in my posting, go to support/downloads and download the parts list. It also has the schematics The complete kit sells for about €18,-, you can switch 4 things with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shilmover Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 - Durability and speed, a OPTO-coupler is designed for this kind of things and the trial gives you the high power switch capability, if you need it. I will use some original parts, a flipper uses about 1 amp at 12 volt to flip. Cutting out the relay means also direct control without any extra mechanical parts- I think it would perfectly work with the LED-wiz. - Check out the link that is in my posting, go to support/downloads and download the parts list. It also has the schematics The complete kit sells for about €18,-, you can switch 4 things with it. Thanks... It similar to what I built for the current starter solenoids I have in the cab now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lettuce Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 yes, the previous afm (ufo shake) and funhouse (hitting rudy) vid. you can't see the effect, you can only feel it... it's a very special feeling that turn into something you don't want to miss anymore. shaker is active so far at... tom (rotation box & magna-save magnet & box magnet) ij (ramp plane/maschinegun & idol rotation & path of adventure) afm (ufo shake & bank motor & martian attack) cc (duell & hitting bad guy) tz (gumball machine & magnets) taf (bookshelf & thing) fh (rudy direct hit & rudys hideout) these "custom shaker mods" are so awesome and not available on the real machines. Need to a MM to that list for when you defeat a castle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 Need to a MM to that list for when you defeat a castle yeah! MM could be one of the best "shaker mod" tables ...castle, troll hit, catapult... but I am lazy to mod the virtual MM, because the real one is next to the vpin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 can you give us any tip if we will get the software this year? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbeef Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 What kinda of power are you using to drive the motors.. specifically the shaker and new car motor you installed? is it the same power supply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 What kinda of power are you using to drive the motors.. specifically the shaker and new car motor you installed? is it the same power supply? Yes, it is the Same psu. Gearmotor 12v, Shaker 5-12v (i Prefer 5v). Both are connected to a separate relay because the current is too high for the ledwiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shilmover Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 - Durability and speed, a OPTO-coupler is designed for this kind of things and the trial gives you the high power switch capability, if you need it. I will use some original parts, a flipper uses about 1 amp at 12 volt to flip. Cutting out the relay means also direct control without any extra mechanical parts- I think it would perfectly work with the LED-wiz. - Check out the link that is in my posting, go to support/downloads and download the parts list. It also has the schematics The complete kit sells for about €18,-, you can switch 4 things with it. Ordered the parts... Less than $3 for each switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gstav Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Yes, it is the Same psu. Gearmotor 12v, Shaker 5-12v (i Prefer 5v). Both are connected to a separate relay because the current is too high for the ledwiz. Heya Chriz! 1 shaker motor 1 wiper motor (and 1 knocker coil too)?? or how many do you got? Whats the specific relays you are using to control the motors? Got any spec of them (or a link maybe) /mr. Questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 I use 12V plug and play relays (brand is "finder") with screw terminals. It's like ledwiz output 10: 12V relay ==> 12V gear motor ledwiz output 11: 12V relay ==> 12V replay knocker ledwiz output 12: 12V relay ==> 5V shaker motor for shaker, knocker and gearmotor: and one additional "multifunction relais" for the shaker (necessary for custom shaker mods to extend the impulse of pinball switches or solenoids, for example: 0.1sec impulse gets extended to 2sec, like an off delay) EDIT: btw, with the new ledwiz code you need only the blue standard relay. no need for the grey timer relay anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 how do you know all this? what do you do in real life as for a job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gstav Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Thanks Chriz! Maybe I should wait for these bad boys untill the software is released. Allready ordered my additional pack of siemens contactors from eibmarkt, and maybe there´s more to come before christmas! Btw, the didn´t have the same, but Switching relay DC 12V 16A - 49.61.7.012.0050... is this some kind of updated version as yours was 48.61...? Or were did you buy these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 how do you know all this? reading, reading and reading I am no professional in electronics or something. I just collect all necessary informations via web, friends or trial and error what do you do in real life as for a job? I'm in the advertising market. Thanks Chriz!Maybe I should wait for these bad boys untill the software is released. Allready ordered my additional pack of siemens contactors from eibmarkt, and maybe there´s more to come before christmas! Btw, the didn´t have the same, but Switching relay DC 12V 16A - 49.61.7.012.0050... is this some kind of updated version as yours was 48.61...? Or were did you buy these two? I bought it at ebay. I think there is no big difference between 48 and 49 series. check out the manuals http://www.finder.de/comuni/pdf/S49EN.pdf http://www.finder.de/comuni/pdf/S48EN.pdf http://www.finder.de/comuni/pdf/S80EN.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmagic Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Ordered the parts... Less than $3 for each switch Wait a minute, you are faster then me ! I only got my 42" tv today, played it for 5 minutes laying on top of the cabinet, really great btw !! @ Chris, just wondering, WHEN your table ever get finished, i would like to see a rough figure of the costs I have some idea on mine, but i think yours will go 2-3 times that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shilmover Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Wait a minute, you are faster then me ! I only got my 42" tv today, played it for 5 minutes laying on top of the cabinet, really great btw !! @ Chris, just wondering, WHEN your table ever get finished, i would like to see a rough figure of the costs I have some idea on mine, but i think yours will go 2-3 times that ! That's because I have nothing better to do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted November 30, 2010 Author Share Posted November 30, 2010 Chris, just wondering, WHEN your table ever get finished, i would like to see a rough figure of the costs I have some idea on mine, but i think yours will go 2-3 times that ! there is always space to optimize, isn't it? In my opinion, you save the most money by doing it right from the start with the main specs like pc, screens and so on. good research for best specs and prices is everything. pay once - cry once. no matter which way you go, a virtual pinball cabinet is expensive... so it should be mind-blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Voyeur Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Awesome work. i have ready through this thread several times. It is truely an inspiration on my build :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Usul Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 how do you know all this? what do you do in real life as for a job? don't understand the question. I always thought pinball is the real life and everything else just a bad dream Chris, on a serious note, as we are talking about your background: May I ask if you are self-employed? I am asking, since I work as a consultant for an international corporation and my 60 hour week really makes me struggle with my time-management when it comes to arcade projects. Everything needs to happen on weekends along with GF, housekeeping etc. So curious about your arcade project mgmt. Speaking of arcade projects, have you posted anything online on your other interesting toys, as depicted in your signature? Would be interested to read more... Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted December 1, 2010 Author Share Posted December 1, 2010 don't understand the question. I always thought pinball is the real life and everything else just a bad dream You are so right Chris, on a serious note, as we are talking about your background: May I ask if you are self-employed?I am asking, since I work as a consultant for an international corporation and my 60 hour week really makes me struggle with my time-management when it comes to arcade projects. Everything needs to happen on weekends along with GF, housekeeping etc. So curious about your arcade project mgmt. Speaking of arcade projects, have you posted anything online on your other interesting toys, as depicted in your signature? Would be interested to read more... Thanks! Yes, I am self-employed. Running a home office here, so my work routine is flexible enough to spend some time for my arcade projects At byoac are some threads about my other projects, like the bartops and candys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 added a "frequently asked questions" section with direct-links for easier navigation. check out the first page of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gstav Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 "Well played thing" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbeef Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Nice Chris thanks for all your hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Share Posted December 4, 2010 klaus (wolfsoft) has some virtual pinball shaker in stock now he included also nice, massive metal connector for mounting ==> http://www.wolfsoft.de/shop/product_info.php/products_id/14809/cPath/325_327/virtual-project/shaker-12dc-0,7a.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shilmover Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 klaus (wolfsoft) has some virtual pinball shaker in stock now he included also nice, massive metal connector for mounting==> http://www.wolfsoft.de/shop/product_info.php/products_id/14809/cPath/325_327/virtual-project/shaker-12dc-0,7a.html Beautiful! I wish I could find something similar here on the other side of the atlantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfsoft Posted December 4, 2010 Share Posted December 4, 2010 please mail to [email protected] and give me your adress, so I can check the shipping costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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