Hyperspin stops working on Windows 11 Home/Pro (version 24H2) after update

[jesfknkrys]

Yes, I just updated the latest Windows updates, which it reinstalled KB5055523.  I will need to uninstall and block it.  Keep in mind, Microsoft is rolling out updates in certain areas. For example, Dime333 has updates available for a later Windows11 build which is currently not available here in southern California.

[shredder]

13 hours ago, jesfknkrys said:

@shredder  Have you tried removing the other 2 updates as well? 

 

 

 

I only have 3 updates available to remove and none of them are the KB's mentioned in this thread... I've tried removing them but then never seem to actually remove....starting to think my OS is f*cked. Trying to avoid totally wiping my PC and starting over because I'm pretty deep into configurations and such and unfortunately don't have a recent backup...not that it would help anyway if my OS is fucked. 

[jesfknkrys]

Try this under windows update if you’ve already tried the Sfc /scannow command.  You shouldn’t lose any settings or files.  It’s an iso download, so it might take 30 minutes to an hour to download and install the updates.

[jh79]

Yes, I'd definitely suggest trying the restore (fix problems using windows update) option. Worked for me last night and got Hyperspin running again.

[shredder]

4 hours ago, jesfknkrys said:

Try this under windows update if you’ve already tried the Sfc /scannow command.  You shouldn’t lose any settings or files.  It’s an iso download, so it might take 30 minutes to an hour to download and install the updates.

Tried this, no joy. Also according to a microsoft forum it seems that after 10 days of 24h2 being installed that rolling back to 23h4 is no longer an option and the only options are to reset the pc or to wait for a fix from MS...some spanish speaking folks on reddit claim that an update has fixed their systems already with a new security KB that has come out, that i assume is regionally distributed. 
Useless info, but I'll throw out that I happen to know that during mid 2023 Microsoft did a massive budget cut and operations restructuring.... I imagine because of trickle down economics that QA went out the window in the interest of time. 
Unless someone happens to find a fool proof fix for this, i guess i'll just have to wait for additional updates from MS for this to sort itself out. 
It does look like @jhabers has been updating this most recently and perhaps could provide some insight on how to reverse engineer the classic version of hyperspin to ensure continued support, or at least provide some documentation on how to support it so that someone else can take over. If hyperspin 2 is taking precedent, then Hyperspin classic should be de-licensed as "Open Source".

[Agard]

@jesfknkrys  I have these updates installed & no further updates it says & nothing blocked. it shows KB5055523 is installed but windows 11 deleted some files when trying to run HyperSpin which I only found out when trying to run again on windows 10. I put the files back & put drive back into windows 11 then excluded the drive entirely from windows defender. HyperSpin is now working in windows 11 PRO so might be different on HOME editions.

Here's my list of update history   https://postimg.cc/XXZ7dRFB

[jesfknkrys]

@shredder Have you tried installing another copy of Hyperspin on a different location on your PC to make sure it's not corrupted or missing files?  

[jesfknkrys]

@Agard  - I'm glad you were able to get Hyperspin  working again.

• The blocked update will show on your installed updates history even if not installed. 

[Agard]

Nothing is blocked, all updates are installed, I just moved everything to a different drive, not the operating system drive, replaced files windows 11 removed, then excluded that drive from windows defender & everything now works on windows 11 pro.

[Dime333]

Now this was unexpected. Today Windows told me that I needed to restart my computer to install updates. I was thinking that Windows finally decided to install KB5055627 that has been sitting around for about a week. But it turns out that it wasn't. Turns out the update was KB5050411. This update broke Hyperspin again but I was able to uninstall and block this one. So Everything is fine again and no more updates are available.

[jesfknkrys]

@Dime333 - Thank you for the info.  So far, four confirmed Windows 11 updates have caused Hyperspin to stop working.

• KB5053598
• KB5053656
• KB5055523
• KB5055627

[shredder]

7 hours ago, jesfknkrys said:

@shredder Have you tried installing another copy of Hyperspin on a different location on your PC to make sure it's not corrupted or missing files?  

I have, still nothing. I have 2 hyperspins on my machine, both are not working.  I'll note that I have Windows 11 Pro on my machine. I have found that when HS launches, some files are distributed to 'C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp' then immediately removed.... this 'feels' as if the program is just flat out being blocked from launching rather than an app crash, but i could be way off in guessing that. 
I do see 'KB5055627' installed on my machine 
I do not see these updates installed...
KB5053598
KB5053656
KB5055523

[jesfknkrys]

Unfortunately, it just takes one of those updates to be installed on you computer to keep Hyperspin from running.  I recommend you do a fresh Windows 11 install, since the updates are past the uninstall deadline.  Make sure you make a backup of your files on a separate drive.  

[shredder]

5 minutes ago, jesfknkrys said:

Unfortunately, it just takes one of those updates to be installed on you computer to keep Hyperspin from running.  I recommend you do a fresh Windows 11 install, since the updates are past the uninstall deadline.  Make sure you make a backup of your files on a separate drive.  

In my case that's quite an undertaking. It would be less effort to wait it out for a fix from windows or have the program updated if possible. I uninstalled 'KB5055627', still broken. I'll wait for the next round of windows updates and see if it gets sorted, if not...then it looks like I've got quite a bit of work to do. 

[Creezz67]

 

[brudibru]

I am using 23H2 and so far so good, but I have read somewhere that Microsoft might enforce the migration to 23H4 even if you have blocked the updates. I don't know if it's true or even possible.

[Creezz67]

1 minute ago, brudibru said:

I am using 23H2 and so far so good, but I have read somewhere that Microsoft might enforce the migration to 23H4 even if you have blocked the updates. I don't know if it's true or even possible.

I have been using it (23H2) for 6 months+ and no sign of forced upgrade.

Also, I am sure you will have the option of installing it or not if and when it finally (if ever) appears.

[brudibru]

I read an article about it yesterday and it has not been implemented yet but will be, supposedly, in the weeks to come. You can maybe search for such an article to confirm, or not, this information. It says that Microsoft will leave us no possibility to block the update (apart from going offline), which seems strange indeed.

[jesfknkrys]

I read the the same thing somewhere as well.  Something about the tools would not be able to block future updates.

[jh79]

Good luck guys, think I'll be migrating to Hyperspin 2

[Creezz67]

10 hours ago, jh79 said:

Good luck guys, think I'll be migrating to Hyperspin 2

Good luck with that !!!

[Agard]

@Dime333 I just installed KB5050411 & HyperSpin is still working on Windows 11 Pro. All updates are installed nothing blocked. My HyperSpin Drive is not on C:Drive it's on E:Drive with it excluded entirely from Windows Defender but also I have controlled folder access turned off so not sure if that has any effect or not as not tried it with controlled folder access turned on.

Windows 11 Pro deleted some HyperSpin files so I had to put the missing files back, if you can try HyperSpin on a Windows 10 to make sure it's working as that's how I knew Windows 11 Pro deleted some files but before I ran HyperSpin on Windows 11 Pro I excluded the E:Drive from Windows defender first.

I hope this helps

[shredder]

Looking more into launchbox, I've had it mildly set up on the backburner for a while. I would rather go with an original idea that's established than a thieved mixture of several ideas.  Until HS (classic can be reverse engineered and updated in a proper way this is just going to keep coming up again and again. I hope an update fixes this, but I won't hold my breath on it.....it's a damn shame, I've worked on this platform for the better part of 14+ years. Times are a changin, that's for sure. 

[rik81]

Well... 3 weeks have gone by... So much for the bi weekly update.

[Asparky]

Thats because the Devs know they are on a Losser with 2.0 and are hiding under a rock....

7 hours ago, rik81 said:

Well... 3 weeks have gone by... So much for the bi weekly update.