optical Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Hey Folks and greetz !! i m planing to build my own mame cab. now i dont now witch screen i should choice. crt tv or a lcd tv, both 32 inch. right now i m setting up hyperspin and my pc runs on a lcd flat monitor.. but when i´m startin a NES game it looks so shitty. mutch to sharp! but i wnat to play on my cab all so newer games, so these would look mutch better on a lcd flat then on a crt tv. and i want to install light guns, very importent ^^ but i read that light guns are hard the get running on lcd. is that right..? sorry folks for my bad engl. but i m from germany.. and here is no scene who i could ask.. thank you !!!
Duglim Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Hi, it really depends on your use case. If you focus on oldschool games only, a CRT - maybe even 15KHz - can be a great choice. If you play newer games with high resolution, a lcd is the better choice, I think. Lightguns will be hard on LCD, don't know if this is even possible with NES or Mame. Also think of the aspect ratio of you screen, CRTs from the past used to be 4:3. I used a TFT with 5:4 and native 1280*1024 resolution. I set the resolution to 640*480 in MAME and all 90's console emulators and added the SLG3000 Scanline Generator. The SLG3000 created Scanline in 640*480 and 800*600 only. This way, the image is scanlined for all low resolution games and higher res games will be crystal clear in 1280*1024. There is no "best for all" solution, set your preferences. Feb 2014 - My first cab project: Street Fighter II bartopApril 2014 - My second cab: 26'' pinball machineJuly 2014 - The third cab: Sailor Moon tabletop arcade box October 2015 - Neo-Geo themed Emulation Supergun
SubZero Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 scanline ggenerator on an lcd looks very good
mameman Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 Never pAid it much attention but does the scan line option in mame not give a realistic look? PM me for any custom CNC needs. Find me on Facebook.. Xtreme Pinball or www.xtremepinball.com Ipad pinball cabinet iFlipper Here: See the Doctor Who build Here.... / See the Tron build Here.... / See the BattleStar Galactica build Here.... See the Big Bang Bar build Here.... / See the Twilight Zone build Here.... CNC Work Here.....
Duglim Posted September 29, 2014 Posted September 29, 2014 If you only use Mame, you can use the D3D Shader Effects to simulate scanlines, CRT masks, etc... But it costs a lot of performance and other system emulators may not have this shaders. The SLG3000 hardware solution scanlines all 640'480 analog VGA signals. Feb 2014 - My first cab project: Street Fighter II bartopApril 2014 - My second cab: 26'' pinball machineJuly 2014 - The third cab: Sailor Moon tabletop arcade box October 2015 - Neo-Geo themed Emulation Supergun
somail Posted September 30, 2014 Posted September 30, 2014 I am a crt guy. That being said, if I was to start from scratch I would go LCD. Crt limits your video card, OS, and front end choices. With HLSL and other options such as scan-line hardware dongles it doesn't make sense from a time, money, or effort standpoint. Another consideration is flexibility when moving. I had to hire professional movers specifically for my 35 inch CRT cabinet. In the long run LCD is just easier and with minimal effort can mimic the looks or crt. Funny thing is that two years ago this was no where near the case. I think crt emulation has come a long way.
Markussage Posted October 17, 2014 Posted October 17, 2014 Because of this post, I am looking at a Scanline generator, here: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scanline-Generator-SLG-Transform-your-VGA-display-into-an-arcade-monitor-/131022398916 This one has more options to adjust settings but it's $12 more... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCANLINE-GENERATOR-FOR-ALL-RETRO-GAMES-AND-GAMERS-MAME-ARCADE-EMULATOR/331152371811?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107083358%26meid%3D40702aa76ec843db87a102b57ceb318b%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D20140107083358%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D10%26sd%3D151028485097 Has anyone purchased one of these or know anything about them and the quality versus other SLG's?
optical Posted October 20, 2014 Author Posted October 20, 2014 is it matter if I buy a tft-lcd monitor or tv is also a device? would like access to a 32 inch device. and there are the tv cheaper than Monitors? Thx!!
Markussage Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I ended up going with the first option, here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=129344.0 Love it and CraftyMech offers great support/customer service. I would recommend this product to anyone who likes the classic CRT look on an LCD screen.
tkropp17 Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 I notice they show a vertical game like pac man having vertical scan lines. Wouldn't this have horizontal scan lines when playing pac man on a regularly mounted TV? My Builds Apartmentcade Custom Mortal Kombat Hyperspin Arcade Build Half-Top Arcade Build
Markussage Posted November 10, 2014 Posted November 10, 2014 Yes, if you're playing Pac Man on a horizontal screen, the lines would be horizontal. Correct me if I'm wrong but all the old CRT games that were vertically oriented, had vertical scan lines.
majorspawn Posted November 11, 2014 Posted November 11, 2014 I got a 32" commercial samsung monitor no lag My Arcade Projects: SNES PC Project Vewlix Cabinet LS-30 Rotary Joysticks
Drnick Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 Yes, if you're playing Pac Man on a horizontal screen, the lines would be horizontal. Correct me if I'm wrong but all the old CRT games that were vertically oriented, had vertical scan lines. Indeed you would be correct, But that was only because the monitor was rotated 90 degrees. to give you a 3:4 screen. I personally use a 21" 1600x1200 LCD with scanline generator and the fact that my monitor does not rotate so scanlines are incorrect on vertical games is quite annoying. Maybe my next machine will have a rotating monitor. Random Ramble end.
BoOgieman Posted November 13, 2014 Posted November 13, 2014 Hi, it really depends on your use case. If you focus on oldschool games only, a CRT - maybe even 15KHz - can be a great choice. If you play newer games with high resolution, a lcd is the better choice, I think. Lightguns will be hard on LCD, don't know if this is even possible with NES or Mame.Also think of the aspect ratio of you screen, CRTs from the past used to be 4:3. I used a TFT with 5:4 and native 1280*1024 resolution. I set the resolution to 640*480 in MAME and all 90's console emulators and added the SLG3000 Scanline Generator. The SLG3000 created Scanline in 640*480 and 800*600 only. This way, the image is scanlined for all low resolution games and higher res games will be crystal clear in 1280*1024. There is no "best for all" solution, set your preferences. Hey mate, Can we see some pics or a little video showing that SLG3000 generator with the 5:4 TFT? HyperSpeech - Text-To-Speech Voice Addon for HyperSpin
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