Looking at Building Custom Aimtrak Wheel for myself

[Polemicist]

Technically an Aimtrak works as a mouse. So if you can figure a way to make a mouse control Hyperspin and point and click using the fire button then technically you could control Hyperspin with your gun. It wouldn't be easy but can't technically see why not. Perhaps another program could be found that once Hyperspin had focus your Aimtrak could be used to gesture on the screen. Like have no idea what you could use but hope that at least gives you a few ideas what to search around for. BYOAC would be the place to look for that sort of thing.

[kilroym42]

Does anyone know if Invasion The Abductors work with aimtrack? I didn't see it in any lists.

[connorsdad]

It does but it doesn't run too well with mame.

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[startreker]

I'm finally finding myself slowly with time to work on the projects I enjoy. That being said the gun games wheel is definitely one of those things. I'm not sure if I will get any responses but I'm curious what any of you all would be interested in seeing next with the gun games wheel? I just found out that Silent Hill the arcade for Taito Type X will play very nicely with the gun games wheel so I plan to add that but I'm curious what direction would be most beneficial for others, if there are any known systems that play with the aimtrak that aren't on this list. Thanks.

[Polemicist]

You seriously have to ask that question? Of course we want to see this wheel.

All I'd say for direction is that the system with the most gun games is the main part of the wheel and the rest are alternative emulators etc.

[HazzardActual]

yeah id like to check that out for sure. also where the hell do i get the silent hill rom

[startreker]

Just to clarify the wheel with the ROMs listed on the first page is already available on both hyperspin FTP and the videos under emumovies FTP under my name. All you have to do is copy those files into their respective folders and <game name="Gun Games"/> to your main menu database file and you should be all set assuming you have all the emulators setup.

I'm looking to expand out further than my WIP 0.1 release and expand to additional consoles/systems that support the aimtrak. I was surprised to find taito type X had one and looking for other recommendations. I'm glad to see there is some interest in the wheel and its continuation.

[ixiworthyixi]

This is brilliant thanks for all the hard work.

Edit 1: Is there an intro video?

Edited February 23, 2014 by ixiworthyixi

[Polemicist]

No intro video done but Startrekker if you ask in the EmuMovies forum and give a list of say 12 game from mixed videos you can already get Circo can quickly put together a video for this if you haven't already. Circo rocks.

[Runadumb]

Thanks for this, great work!

Question: I see you have PCSX down as the PS1 emulator. Do you use that for lightgun games only or is that your goto PS emulator? I see there are several variations or it too, like reloaded and dif, do you use them or just plain PCSX? I'm asking because Epsxe is just a mess for me right now due to a bloated plugin folder so I've been looking to ditch it.

Thanks again.

[klizine]

Finally got around to buying my Aimtrak's and I randomly find this thread... nice!! Thanks startreker!!! Can't wait to fully try this out!!

[startreker]

No intro video done but Startrekker if you ask in the EmuMovies forum and give a list of say 12 game from mixed videos you can already get Circo can quickly put together a video for this if you haven't already. Circo rocks.

I fell off the grid for a little while as life was getting in the way of the hobby. I did get back with him a couple of months after his inquiry and left him some options. Hopefully he will get to it when he has a chance but no rush.

Thanks for this, great work!

Question: I see you have PCSX down as the PS1 emulator. Do you use that for lightgun games only or is that your goto PS emulator? I see there are several variations or it too, like reloaded and dif, do you use them or just plain PCSX? I'm asking because Epsxe is just a mess for me right now due to a bloated plugin folder so I've been looking to ditch it.

Thanks again.

Yeah I use the reloaded version with the plugins for PSone and found it to be a pretty solid PS1 emulation in general. I highly recommend that you go into the emulator and load the official PS1 BIOS into the emulator though as it brings the game compatibility up a ton. It will work without the official BIOS but not that well.

Finally got around to buying my Aimtrak's and I randomly find this thread... nice!! Thanks startreker!!! Can't wait to fully try this out!!

Glad you will get to enjoy this too. I really like the aimtrak and have found it to be worth every expensive penny to get back to playing shooters. Let me know if you have any issues. PS2 is annoying to setup but very worth it in the long run for the exclusive games.

[ejfriis]

Update

It would be great if there was a way of using the media from its original location, I don't know about you guys but I'm not willing to duplicate all the videos, themes and wheel art images, it would eat up too much storage space.

Did you try symlinks?

[Polemicist]

Did you try symlinks?

Yeah they do work for a lot of things.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/16226/complete-guide-to-symbolic-links-symlinks-on-windows-or-linux/

[klizine]

It's been a little more involved than I would have guessed. Started with MAME and so far so good. I feel like there is going to be a LOT of tinkering. Just curious about calibration. For one player I usually stand in the center, but with two players I will be to a side. Am I going to have to calibrate when switching from one player games to two?

[Polemicist]

calibration of the guns is very much about the distance away from the screen. Since many guns are corded most people would stand back where it is comfortable to shoot but not so far away from the screen that the cord ends up tight. On my mates cab he is running a 32 inch LED TV and the two aimtraks and we can switch from one player to two player games without much issue. I've heard the cordless ones cause issues when people move around the room more than normal. One of the reasons a WiiMote and similar console remotes are so good is that the physical location of the device is also tracked in 3D space so calibration can happen on the fly. A cordless AimTrak would benefit from that technology greatly. But I digress. Enough of my guff.

[startreker]

Yeah I find the distance makes the biggest difference. I don't know about anyone else but I had purchased a wireless sensor bar for the Wii and it is meant to run the Wiimotes at a greater distance. I found it to work out better at aimtrak calibration than the stock sensor bar. I'm not saying the stock sensor bar is inadequate but when I play my games on the big screen it seems to help quite a bit.

[Polemicist]

I actually need to work out a way to make the sensor bar wireless myself as my machine will be cocktail style in a coffee table but obviously in the same room as my TV so can be plugged into that for gun games etc. Any info on wireless sensor bars for AimTrak has me interested.

[klizine]

I actually need to work out a way to make the sensor bar wireless myself as my machine will be cocktail style in a coffee table but obviously in the same room as my TV so can be plugged into that for gun games etc. Any info on wireless sensor bars for AimTrak has me interested.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000LFJNG6 worked great for wii. I've since ditched it to go wired, so don't know about for aimtrak. Just want the cab to be as self sustaining as it can be. But I assume a ir light is an ir light.

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[Polemicist]

Well that's interesting. 4xAA batteries. So that would probably work fine from USB. Hmmm.

[klizine]

Well that's interesting. 4xAA batteries. So that would probably work fine from USB. Hmmm.

What are you thinking? Of hard wiring it?

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[Polemicist]

I have extra USB plugs in my power board that never get used. I like the stronger signal of that. Yeah just got me thinking at like 1am. Bad idea to start thinking this late at night.

[klizine]

I have extra USB plugs in my power board that never get used. I like the stronger signal of that. Yeah just got me thinking at like 1am. Bad idea to start thinking this late at night.

Yeah, you could probably even just make something detachable that hits the two points. That way you could have it wired or wireless.

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[ziggy]

This all looks amazing. I can't wait, will have to try and get a free day to get this going on my cab. Big thanks

[ninja2bceen]

I haven't yet implemented RL. I'm waiting until I can dedicate a few straight hours to getting it done right and not having a system in a state of flux where nothing is working. I might just eventually have to break down though and start the upgrade to RL in pieces.

That being said with the ability to choose the emulator at a game level, I think this really opens up the opportunity for some amazing custom categories. My first thought for me is to make a master list of all aimtrak compatible games and systems and create a master list. My goal is to eventually have a separate wheel that I can go to and everything on that list will be pre-configured to work with my aimtrak mouse. I would have to have to separate emulators and have the games probably all in one folder but it should be possible with RL.

This is my list of game systems that work with aimtrak, I included games that I know were lightgun games but I haven't tested every last one of them. I am curious if anyone knows of any systems or games that I am missing. I found the CD-i emulator seems to work alright with aimtrak but I couldn't get any of the exclusives for that system to load with the emulator, just the various ports of American Laser Games.

I have been meaning to get to the Atari and CPC emulators to test but if someone knows which emulator to use that would of great help as I build this out.

Working systems and games that fall under them

Sega Noami

1. Confidential Mission

2. Death Crimson OX

3. Gun Survivor 2 Biohazard Code: Veronica

4. Lupin the Third – The Shooting

5. Maze of the Kings, The

6. Ninja Assault

7. The House of the Dead 2

Atomiswave

1. Extreme Hunting

2. Extreme Hunting 2

3. Ranger Mission

4. Sega Clay Challenge

Sony PlayStation

1. Area 51 (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

2. Crypt Killer (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

3. Die Hard Trilogy (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

4. Die Hard Trilogy 2: Viva Las Vegas (Justifier/Hyperblaster or Guncon)

5. Elemental Gearbolt (Justifier/Hyperblaster or GunCon)

6. Extreme Ghostbusters: Ultimate Invasion (GunCon)

7. Galaxian 3 (GunCon)

8. Ghoul Panic (GunCon)

9. Gunfighter: The Legend of Jesse James (GunCon)

10. Judge Dredd (Justifier/Hyperblaster or GunCon)

11. Lethal Enforcers 1&2 (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

12. Maximum Force (Justifier/Hyperblaster or GunCon)[18]

13. Mighty Hits Special (EU/JPN only, GunCon)

14. Moorhuhn X

15. Point Blank (GunCon)

16. Point Blank 2 (GunCon)

17. Point Blank 3 (GunCon)

18. Project Horned Owl (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

19. Rescue Shot (GunCon)

20. Resident Evil Survivor (JPN/PAL versions) (GunCon)

21. Silent Hill (Justifier/Hyperblaster, used for an easter egg)

22. Simple 1500 Series Vol.024 - The Gun Shooting

23. Simple 1500 Series Vol.063 - The Gun Shooting 2

24. Snatcher (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

25. Star Wars: Rebel Assault II (Justifier/Hyperblaster)

26. Time Crisis (GunCon)

27. Time Crisis: Project Titan (GunCon)

Sony PlayStation 2

1. Death Crimson OX+ (JP) aka Guncom 2 (EU)

2. Dino Stalker (EU/NA) aka Gun Survivor 3: Dino Crisis (JP)

3. Endgame

4. Gunfighter II: Revenge of Jesse James (EU only)

5. Gunvari Collection + Time Crisis (JP only)

6. Ninja Assault

7. Police 24/7 (Norgun) * Also can use a USB Camera (EU/JP Only)

8. Resident Evil: Dead Aim (EU/NA) aka Gun Survivor 4 Biohazard Heroes Never Die (JP)

9. Resident Evil Survivor 2 Code: Veronica (EU) aka Gun Survivor 2 Biohazard Code: Veronica (JP)

10. Starsky & Hutch

11. Time Crisis: Crisis Zone

12. Time Crisis II

13. Time Crisis 3

14. Vampire Night

15. Virtua Cop: Elite Edition (EU) aka Virtua Cop Re-Birth (JP)

Sega Model 2

1. Behind Enemy Lines

2. Gunblade NY

3. House of the Dead

4. Rail Chase 2

5. Virtua Cop

6. Virtua Cop 2

Sega Model 3

1. Lost World, The: Jurassic Park

American Laser Games

1. Crime Patrol

2. Crime Patrol 2: Drug Wars

3. Last Bounty Hunter

4. Mad Dog McCree

5. Mad Dog 2: The Lost Gold

6. Space Pirates

7. Who Shot Johnny Rock?

Action Max

1. .38 Ambush Alley

2. Blue Thunder

3. Hydrosub: 2021

4. Sonic Fury

5. The Rescue of Pops Ghostly

MAME Games

1. Alien3: The Gun (World)

2. Area 51 (Atari, R3000, Time Warner, Maximum Force Duo)

3. Bang!

4. Beast Busters (world)

5. Bronx (clone of: cyclshtg)

6. CarnEvil (v1.0.3)

7. Catch-22 (Version 8.0)

8. Cheyenne (version 1.0)

9. Chiller (version 3.0)

10. Clay Pigeon (version 2.0)

11. Colt

12. Combat (version 3.0)

13. Crackshot (version 2.0)

14. Crossbow (version 2.0)

15. Crypt Killer

16. Cycle Shooting

17. Desert Gun

18. Duck Hunt (Playchoice-10)

19. Egg Venture (Release 10)

20. Ghost Hunter

21. Golly! Ghost!

22. Great Guns

23. Gun Gabacho (Japan)

24. Gunbuster (world)

25. Hit ‘n Miss (version 3.0)

26. Hogan’s Alley (Playchoice-10)

27. Judge Dredd (Rev B, Rec C, Gun Fighters, The Western)

28. Lethal Enforcers II

29. Lethal Justice

30. Locked ‘n Loaded (world)

31. Maximum Force v1.02 and v1.05

32. Mechanized Attack (world)

33. N.Y. Captor

34. One Shot One Kill

35. Operation Bear (bootleg of Operation Wolf)

36. Operation Thunderbolt (World)

37. Operation Wolf (World, set 1)

38. Operation Wolf 3 (US, world)

39. Point Blank (world, GN2 Rev

40. Point Blank 2 (GNB5/Ver.A)

41. Police Trainer (Rev 1.3)

42. Rail Chase (world)

43. Revolution X (Rev 1.0 6/16/94)

44. Sharpshooter (Rev 1.9)

45. Space Gun (world)

46. Steel Gunner (US and Japan)

47. Steel Gunner 2 (US)

48. Target Hits (ver 1.1)

49. Terminator 2 – Judgement Day (rev LA1, LA2, LA4)

50. Ticket Tickats

51. Time Crisis (Rev. TS2 Ver.

52. Triple Hunt

53. Trucket Shoot

54. Tut’s Tomb

55. Under Fire (World)

56. Vs. Duck Hunt (set DH3 E)

57. Vs. Freedom Force

58. Vs. Hogan’s Alley (Set HA4-1 E-1)

59. Who Dunnit (version 8.0)

60. Wild Gunman (PlayChoice-10)

61. Wild Pilot

62. Zero Point (set 1, set 2)

63. Zero Point 2

64. Zombie Raid (US)

Nintendo Entertainment System

1. Baby Boomer

2. Barker Bill's Trick Shooting

3. Chiller

4. Duck Hunt

5. Freedom Force

6. Hogan's Alley

7. Gumshoe

8. Gotcha! The Sport!

9. Laser Invasion

10. The Lone Ranger

11. Mechanized Attack

12. Operation Wolf

13. Shooting Range

14. The Adventures of Bayou Billy

15. To The Earth

16. Wild Gunman

17. Track & Field II

Super Nintendo Entertainment System

1. Battle Clash

2. Bazooka Blitzkrieg

3. The Hunt for Red October (it is used for bonus games)

4. Lamborghini American Challenge (it accesses a different game mode from the normal one)

5. Lethal Enforcers (used its own gun: Konami Justifier)

6. Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge - aka Battle Clash 2

7. Operation Thunderbolt

8. Super Scope 6 cart (it is bundled with the hardware and features six games, under Lazer Blazer and Blastris categories)

9. Terminator 2: The Arcade Game

10. Tin Star

11. X-Zone

12. Yoshi's Safari

Below here are the game systems and games that I know exist that were compatable with older style light guns but I haven't yet found a method of playing them with aimtrak

Sega Saturn

1. Area 51

2. Chaos Control

3. Chaos Control Remix (released in PAL regions under the title Chaos Control, causing it to be sometimes confused with the original)

4. Crypt Killer

5. Death Crimson

6. Die Hard Trilogy

7. The House of the Dead

8. Mighty Hits

9. Maximum Force

10. Mechanical Violator Hakaider

11. Policenauts

12. Scud the Disposable Assassin

13. Snatcher

14. Virtua Cop

15. Virtua Cop 2

Sega Genesis, Sega CD and Sega CD 32X

1. Bodycount

2. Corpse Killer (CD)

3. Crime Patrol (CD)

4. Lethal Enforcers

5. Lethal Enforcers (CD)

6. Lethal Enforcers 2

7. Lethal Enforcers 2 (CD)

8. Mad Dog McCree (CD)

9. Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold (CD)

10. Monster Hunter (Unreleased)

11. Snatcher (CD)

12. Terminator 2: The Arcade Game

13. Who Shot Johnny Rock (CD)

Sega Master System

1. Assault City

2. Gangster Town

3. Laser Ghost

4. Marksman Shooting & Trap Shooting

5. Missile Defense 3-D

6. Operation Wolf

7. Rescue Mission

8. Rambo III

9. Safari Hunt

10. Space Gun

11. Trap Shooting

12. Wanted!

CD-i

1. Chaos Control

2. Creature Shock

3. Crime Patrol

4. Mad Dog McCree

5. Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold

6. Mystic Midway: Phantom Express

7. Mystic Midway: Rest in Pieces (Doesn’t feel like it)

8. The Last Bounty Hunter

9. Who Shot Johnny Rock

3DO Interactive Multiplayer

1. Corpse Killer

2. Crime Patrol

3. Demolition Man

4. Drug Wars

5. Gunslinger's Collection

6. The Last Bounty Hunter

7. Mad Dog McCree

8. Mad Dog II: The Lost Gold

9. Policenauts

10. Space Pirates

11. Who Shot Johnny Rock

Gunstick CPC games:

1. A-Team, The Gunstick 1988 Zafiro

2. Bestial Warrior Gunstick 1989 Dinamic

3. Guillermo Tell Gunstick 1989 Opera Soft

4. Mike Gunner Gunstick 1988 Dinamic

5. Solo Gunstick 1989 Opera Soft

6. Space Smugglers Gunstick 1989 MHT Ingenieros

7. Target Plus Gunstick 1988 Dinamic

8. Trigger Gunstick 1989 Opera Soft

Magnum CPC games:

1. Bullseye Magnum 19?? Macsen

2. Missile Ground Zero Magnum 1989 Mastertronic

3. Operation Wolf Magnum 1989 Ocean

4. Robot Attack Magnum 1990 Mastertronic

5. Rookie Magnum 1989 Mastertronic

6. Solar Invasion Magnum 1990 Mastertronic

Trojan (CPC Plus) games:

1. Skeet Shoot Trojan 199? Trojan

2. Enforcer, The Trojan 199? Trojan

Westphaser (CPC) games:

1. Crazy Shot Westphaser

2. Steve McQueen Westphaser 1992 Loriciel

3. West Phaser Westphaser 1989 Loriciel

Unconfirmed CPC games:

1. American Turbo King Magnum? 1989 Mastertronic

2. Billy The Kid Magnum? 1990 Mastertronic

3. Bronx Street Cop Magnum? 1989 Mastertronic

4. F16 Fighting Falcon Magnum? 1989 Mastertronic

5. Jungle Warfare Magnum? 1989 Mastertronic

Atari 2600

1. Sentinel

2. Shooting Gallery (unreleased)

3. Bobby needs Food (homebrew)

Atari 7800

1. Alien Brigade

2. Barnyard Blaster

3. Bug Blaster

4. Crossbow

5. Meltdown

6. Sentinel

7. Sharp Shooter

Atari 8-bit family

1. Barnyard Blaster

2. Bug Hunt

3. Crossbow

4. Crime buster

5. Gangsters Ville

6. Operation Blood

Commodore 64

1. Army Days

2. Baby Blues

3. Blaze-Out (compilation of: RoboCop, Combat School, Hyper Sports, Platoon, Rambo III for use with a light gun)

4. Cosmic Storm

5. Gangster

6. Ghost Town

7. GooseBusters

8. Grouse Shoot

9. Gunslinger

10. High Noon Shootout

11. Mike Gunner

12. Operation Wolf

13. Shooting Gallery

14. Target Plus

15. Time Traveller

Magnavox Odyssey

1. Shootout (game card #9)

2. Dogfight (game card #9)

3. Prehistoric Safari (game card #9)

4. Shooting Gallery (game card #10)

Xbox

1. Silent Scope Complete

2. The House of the Dead III

3. Starsky & Hutch (video game)

WAS AN XML EVER CREATED FOR THIS?