How Hyperspin should handle 4: 3 and 16:9 themes in the future (Or my HyperSpin Video)

[knewlife]

Hi guys, I started this theme to show up an idea in how hyperspin should handle 4:3 and 16:9  themes in future releases (for my anyway).

 

In this video you will see my current hyperspin setup.

 

I use a modified version of my HSbezel app (this version is not for download, before you ask) and HS 1.4 to show dinamic bezels around 4:3 themes in my 16:9 TV... and also change hyperspin size to fill the whole screen once i enter a 16:9 theme. This works with system, game and main menu themes... but here i just show the main menu.

 

This way i can have 16:9 a 4:3 themes convined.

 

This is far from perfect and the 4:3 <-> 16:9 transition is not fluid but it works. The delay problem is worst with James Baker themes as they are more resource intensive but gosh i love those themes

 

If this can be implemented in hyperspin it will be the best adition to make all themes compatibles with many resolutions. Again this is intented to be used if no 16:9 theme exists.

 

So here is the video... tell me what you think about it

 

[BakerMan]

That is "too" cool. PLEASE share whatever script you are using brother. That is the best overall setup I've ever seen. You managed to preserve the 4x3's nicely.

[knewlife]

That is "too" cool. PLEASE share whatever script you are using brother. That is the best overall setup I've ever seen. You managed to preserve the 4x3's nicely

 

 

Thanks  the script is part of my big launch script for HS.... i will need to extract it and add a few options. I have done that before but takes time. When done i will publish it as the new hsbezel version.

[ninja2bceen]

Personal preference would be the hyper spin bezels set as default. Can't wait to see it and ya don't mess with James bakers themes in my opinion

[KlopjerO]

THIS IS AWESOME !! much wow! 

 

okay okay.. you extended your finger.. let me take your hand...some systems look better in vertical aspect . how does this work? do you have to define the aspect , or does it detect the aspect dynamically ,and if it does.. how does it do that because all themes are formatted to be 1024x768... could it trigger a script to have it rotate a monitor for instance ?? 

I like this very much ! very wel done!

 

EDIT:
Wil this also work with game themes ?? 

 

Edit EDIT

 

read the top post carefully this time.... i have my answer...

[BakerMan]

Thanks  the script is part of my big launch script for HS.... i will need to extract it and add a few options. I have done that before but takes time. When done i will publish it as the new hsbezel version.

The only reason why I convert my MP4's into flv and convert into a "theme" is, so I can add "smoothing." 

 

If you could somehow add smoothing to your script for "video playback" then people could just use the MP4's for my themes meaning they wouldn't be resource intensive at all. Would also fix the "stuck glitch" that people seem to experience with my themes as well.

 

Any way to do that?

 

That would be epic.

[knewlife]

The only reason why I convert my MP4's into flv and convert into a "theme" is, so I can add "smoothing."

If you could somehow add smoothing to your script for "video playback" then people could just use the MP4's for my themes meaning they wouldn't be resource intensive at all. Would also fix the "stuck glitch" that people seem to experience with my themes as well.

Any way to do that?

That would be epic.

In my system the mp4 don't play Smoot normally ... I use flv for all main menu videos. so I think your themes are ok like they are now ... Believe me... your themes are not the problem here. The fact is that a normal themes are 2 or 3 MB in size... Yours are 60 to 120 MB. Loading that from disc plus the resize script changing the size of hyperspin at the same time cause some delay. But they are nothing compared with the attractive of the themes.

I set hyperspin quality to medium (not low because wheels look bad) and that's all... Your themes with flv inside swf play nice with little delay in loading... If they are other setting Just have the sound problem once.

And ni I can do nothing with hyperspin except change is size and draw graphics outside of is window.

What I've not test yet is to convert mp4 to flv and put that video outside of the theme... It will look bad?

[KlopjerO]

In my system the mp4 don't play Smoot normally ... I use flv for all main menu videos. so I think your themes are ok like they are now ... Believe me... your themes are not the problem here. The fact is that a normal themes are 2 or 3 MB in size... Yours are 60 to 120 MB. Loading that from disc plus the resize script changing the size of hyperspin at the same time cause some delay. But they are nothing compared with the attractive of the themes.

I set hyperspin quality to medium (not low because wheels look bad) and that's all... Your themes with flv inside swf play nice with little delay in loading... If they are other setting Just have the sound problem once.

And ni I can do nothing with hyperspin except change is size and draw graphics outside of is window.

What I've not test yet is to convert mp4 to flv and put that video outside of the theme... It will look bad?

you said your script resizes hyperspin... all themes are 1024x768 in size.. how does your script know it's working with a 16:9 aspect theme instead of a 4:3 ? You'd have to configure that.. right ? 

[knewlife]

THIS IS AWESOME !! much wow!

okay okay.. you extended your finger.. let me take your hand...some systems look better in vertical aspect . how does this work? do you have to define the aspect , or does it detect the aspect dynamically ,and if it does.. how does it do that because all themes are formatted to be 1024x768... could it trigger a script to have it rotate a monitor for instance ??

I like this very much ! very wel done!

EDIT:

Wil this also work with game themes ??

Edit EDIT

read the top post carefully this time.... i have my answer...

Wokrs just like my HSBezel app (you have to make bezels for your specific resolution but I already have a script that makes this easier) but changes the bezel using 1.4 hsscript. It search for a file called "theme path\themename.169" and if found the script knows this is a 16:9 theme. And yes work with game and system themes.

I use this with hyperspin 1.4 beta 10 as beta 15 do some things I don't like but it may work with 15 too.

[Styphelus]

You do realize that a lot of those systems where you are using 4:3 themes for have 16:9 themes available, right? Plus for the menus, it's really easy to convert a 4:3 theme to 16:9. This would only be useful for those who use game themes (ex. Mame).

 

Still a cool script.

[Styphelus]

opps double post!

[knewlife]

Yeah I know they are many 16:9 themes... But I select and modify all my 4:3 themes si i pretend to do the same with 16:9 plus I don't think that I will change my system themes... Using 4:3 I don't need to resize all my artwork

[knewlife]

Double post :/

[KlopjerO]

You do realize that a lot of those systems where you are using 4:3 themes for have 16:9 themes available, right? Plus for the menus, it's really easy to convert a 4:3 theme to 16:9. This would only be useful for those who use game themes (ex. Mame).

 

Still a cool script.

It's the technique that's awesome Styph.. it's fills the backwards compatibility niche  

[knewlife]

It's the technique that's awesome Styph.. it's fills the backwards compatibility niche

I must mention that most things using here... Code and ideas I learned from the hyperlaunch code... The guys behind that are awesome.

[Metalzoic]

Pretty cool.

I can see how using those theme bezels could be cool for actual game themes since nearly all of them are 4:3.

I don't really see the use so much for the main menu since a bunch are already 16:9 and for the ones that aren't it doesn't take to much time to simply convert to 16:9.

Still very cool work though.

[knewlife]

Ok im uploading right now a quick test for anyone that wish to test this. Right now it load Hyperspin in is windows size (like 1024x768) and then it get fullscreen when you land on a 16:9 theme... this can be modified in the future but as i have a 4:3 intro video this is ok for me .

 

The bezels is other issue... they are based on Rocketlauncher bezels... so am not the autor of most of them. No idea who made them... can i upload them in the downloads section...???  they don't work in rocketlauncher anyway because they are just png files no ini.

 

EDIT: http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/7425-hs-bezel/

[ninja2bceen]

I think it's ok to upload

Btw what's the difference to ur other hsbezel app

[knewlife]

I think it's ok to upload

Btw what's the difference to ur other hsbezel app

The bezels change dynamically depending on the system like you see in thevideo

Uploaun bezels to dropbox right now: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0lmz339xfvmgh65/Bezels%20Pack%20HSBezel%200.0.1%20BETA.7z?dl=0

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[JoyStickKilla]

takes too long to switch and looks pretty ugly having some systems with it and some without it

[knewlife]

takes too long to switch and looks pretty ugly having some systems with it and some without it

I know... thats because i sugest to implement this natively in hyperspin... also i did this for my mostly so no problem

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[KlopjerO]

I know... thats because i sugest to implement this natively in hyperspin... also i did this for my mostly so no problem

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so how do we get this under the attention of BadBoyBill ? do we have to stand in front of an arcade cabinet and say his username 3 times ?

[ninja2bceen]

I'd send a pm to subzero, badeluov, jsinn and they should be in contact with him

Only probably end I have left now is hyperspeech. Can you fix that lol

[KlopjerO]

Do notice my clever beetleguice reference

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[knewlife]

Do notice my clever beetleguice reference

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I don't think that would work or we all will be talking to our cabinets all day ( I don't have one anyway).

I don't want to disturb BBB or anyone just showing up my idea here.