Complete Guide for Commodore Amiga in HS and HL3 Using WinUAE Only

[rfancella]

Ok so have decided to go with using WinUAELoader for these games as they work.

Cool. I went the other direction with it. WinUAE as my Default emulator and setup WinUAELoader as an alternate emulator for the games that WinUAE will not launch.

Now on to the other games that aren't working namely those like North & South. Any luck getting this to play? I'm using WHDLoad version 1.6 and I'm getting an error reading disk.1 file. I've tried in WinUAE and WinUAELoader with same error on both. From reading around it appears to be a memory problem. I've had a fiddle with no avail.

Hmmm... North & South (North&South_v1.5_2397) seems to work just fine in WinUAE for me.

Thanks,

Ron

[Guest]

Yeah that's what I'm doing WinUAE as default and WinUAELoader as alternative for games that need it.

I'm getting the same error with version 1.6 of north and south - will give 1.5 a try...

[wolfsoft]

Hi am currently trying to add Amiga WHD Support.

I am using a arcade cabinet and it works with custom keysettings for 1 player games.

I didn't find how to add 2 player support. You are decribing player 1 as mouse and player 2 as joystick.

Where have I to set the 2nd player keys and how can I change between mouse and player 2 during gamestart. Or how does it works

thanks for the great tutorial.

[wolfsoft]

And I didn't understand how it works. Does all WHD Games works with the settings A1200 4MB? Or is there a config file with settings for each game separatly

thanks for your time and great work

[Turranius]

Hi am currently trying to add Amiga WHD Support.

I am using a arcade cabinet and it works with custom keysettings for 1 player games.

I didn't find how to add 2 player support. You are decribing player 1 as mouse and player 2 as joystick.

Where have I to set the 2nd player keys and how can I change between mouse and player 2 during gamestart. Or how does it works

thanks for the great tutorial.

I made this little guide a while back for selecting between 1p mouse, 2 p joy and 1p joy, 2p joy.

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?34585-How-to-Using-your-X-Arcade-tankstick-as-a-mouse-in-WinUAE-%28Amiga-emu%29

Its not easy to understand at a quick glance since WinUAE is anything but user friendly when it comes to custom joystick setups..

[rfancella]

Hi am currently trying to add Amiga WHD Support.

I am using a arcade cabinet and it works with custom keysettings for 1 player games.

I didn't find how to add 2 player support. You are decribing player 1 as mouse and player 2 as joystick.

Where have I to set the 2nd player keys and how can I change between mouse and player 2 during gamestart. Or how does it works

thanks for the great tutorial.

Wolfsoft, sorry it took so long to answer your posts. I have some additional information about the settings and how the module (v2.0.3) works.

First off, I created a post (with pictures) on how to change your controller settings once everything is setup and working:

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?31472-Complete-Guide-for-Commodore-Amiga-in-HS-and-RL-Using-WinUAE-Only&p=347401&viewfull=1#post347401

The best way to enable 2 player controls on a per game basis would be to setup rom named uae file for each game.

It's actually pretty easy to do so with the current module. I will create a new post with how to do so and provide screen shots as well. Then I will come back into this post and update it with a link to that post.

And I didn't understand how it works. Does all WHD Games works with the settings A1200 4MB? Or is there a config file with settings for each game separatly

thanks for your time and great work

Yes, all WHDLoad games use the quickstart setting of "a1200,1" which sets the Amiga Hardware settings to a standard Amiga 1200.

I should have that post done very soon.

Thanks,

Ron

EDIT: I got to he post sooner than I thought I could. See the post #232 below.

[rfancella]

Ok,

So, here is how to create per-game configurations that load each time you launch that specific game.

This is very similar to the post above by Tarranius.

Lets say, you want to play Smash TV (SmashTV_v1.0_2293) with 2 players and two joysticks (or 2 player control panel). The default settings in your WinUAE setup are for Controller Port 1 = Mouse & Controller Port 2 = Player 1 Joystick. Harumph! We need to have Controller Port 1 = Player 1 Joystick & Controller Port 2 = Player 2 Joystick.

So, launch the game as you normally would in HyperSpin Or HyperLaunch HQ.

Once the game is running, hit [F12] on your keyboard.

This will bring up the WinUAE settings dialogue window:

On the left side, click "Game ports" and you will see the default Port 1 and Port 2 assignments:

Click on the drop down box for "Port 1:" and select your new Joystick or Keyboard Layout:

Or...

At this point, you can use the "Remap" button to change the button assignments.

You can also make any other changes to the settings you would like to apply when you next launch the game.

Once you are back to the above screen, click on "Configurations" on the left:

Click the "Save As..." button on the bottom of that window and it will bring up a Save As dialogue box:

You should be saving the file in your {Emulator Directory}\Configurations directory as shown above.

In the File Name box, type the exact name of the rom. IE: SmashTV_v1.0_2293 and hit the Save button.

You should see this now:

You can hit the OK button at the bottom and play away!

The next time you launch this game, the module will load this settings file with all of your changes in it and you should have to do nothing else.

NOTE:

There are a couple of instances where this will break. If your rom name changes or your rom path (location of your roms) changes, you will have to delete the {Rom Name}.uae file and do this procedure over again.

Hope this helps some out there.

Thanks,

Ron

[Styphelus]

Great tutorial. Maybe put something in near the start that says this only really works with a valid whdload.key. otherwise you can't use whdfiles.

And they are charging $30.00 for it too. Ironic that they want you to pay for their key in order to play thousands of pirated games by other people, but who cares about their work, right?

Is there another way to setup the Amiga without forking out $30.00? No way my wife would go for that. I would never hear the end of it. "Why are you spending $30.00 on games you're never going to play, bla bla bla..."

Also, I already have WinUAE setup perfectly to run Amiga CD 32. Will any of this affect my current setup for that system?

[brolly]

And they are charging $30.00 for it too. Ironic that they want you to pay for their key in order to play thousands of pirated games by other people, but who cares about their work, right?

Better get your facts straight first. There's nothing ironic because WHDLoad has nothing to do with playing pirated games even though of course people might use it for that. WHDLoad was created so you can install games on real Amiga hard drives when such games didn't have that feature originally and could only be played from floppies. What you find in the WHDLoad site are simply slaves that will allow you to do such installation and no games at all, you should also be using original games for that. In fact if you try installing them using cracked versions it won't work.

If you are using pirated games then it's your call and there's nothing Bert can do about it.

If you can't fork out the $30 or because you think everything should be free, use the ADF dumps instead that's how the games were supposed to be played anyway before Bert developed WHDLoad. What he's charging is more than worth it though since this makes the whole Amiga experience so much more enjoyable. I have my a1200 with a HDD filled of games inside a CF card which is way more convenient than being constantly changing disks not to mention the faster loading times. So what Bert did there was a blessing for all Amiga fans and should be supported.

You can also play WHDLoad just fine without a key (even though some slaves are coded to require a registered version, since all slave coders support Bert's work), you'll just have to deal with a nag screen for a while.

This will have no effect on your CD32 setup as long as you have everything set in WinUAE using portable mode.

[nathan1974au]

there plenty of hacked whdload keys out there

[nathan1974au]

Better get your facts straight first. There's nothing ironic because WHDLoad has nothing to do with playing pirated games even though of course people might use it for that. WHDLoad was created so you can install games on real Amiga hard drives when such games didn't have that feature originally and could only be played from floppies. What you find in the WHDLoad site are simply slaves that will allow you to do such installation and no games at all, you should also be using original games for that. In fact if you try installing them using cracked versions it won't work.

If you are using pirated games then it's your call and there's nothing Bert can do about it.

If you can't fork out the $30 or because you think everything should be free, use the ADF dumps instead that's how the games were supposed to be played anyway before Bert developed WHDLoad. What he's charging is more than worth it though since this makes the whole Amiga experience so much more enjoyable. I have my a1200 with a HDD filled of games inside a CF card which is way more convenient than being constantly changing disks not to mention the faster loading times. So what Bert did there was a blessing for all Amiga fans and should be supported.

You can also play WHDLoad just fine without a key (even though some slaves are coded to require a registered version, since all slave coders support Bert's work), you'll just have to deal with a nag screen for a while.

This will have no effect on your CD32 setup as long as you have everything set in WinUAE using portable mode.

facts: you have any rom image anything which you don't own the rights to!. doesn't matter Evan if you own the game or rom! doesn't mean you have full rights! that mean we are pirates!

ahh me harty's shiver me timbers! lol been a pirate since 1985! ahhhh

[brolly]

Piracy on these forums won't be tolerated nathan. In this particular case I'll make sure to be enforcing it since I fully support Bert and the Amiga scene since ages, so please refrain from doing that again.

And you clearly didn't read my post, read again and again and again until you understood what I said. Never mentioned anything about owning roms being legal or illegal so don't know how you even came up with that...

[nathan1974au]

And they are charging $30.00 for it too. Ironic that they want you to pay for their key in order to play thousands of pirated games by other people, but who cares about their work, right?

Is there another way to setup the Amiga without forking out $30.00? No way my wife would go for that. I would never hear the end of it. "Why are you spending $30.00 on games you're never going to play, bla bla bla..."

Also, I already have WinUAE setup perfectly to run Amiga CD 32. Will any of this affect my current setup for that system?

the stress of getting our pirated games to work on hyperspin! can get to you sometimes. just look at the walkthroughs to setup amiga it makes you mad!

i'm just waiting for a time where it gets easy to run!

[nathan1974au]

Piracy on these forums won't be tolerated nathan. In this particular case I'll make sure to be enforcing it since I fully support Bert and the Amiga scene since ages, so please refrain from doing that again.

And you clearly didn't read my post, read again and again and again until you understood what I said. Never mentioned anything about owning roms being legal or illegal so don't know how you even came up with that...

take it easy mate! just having a joke! we are all adults here im 40! relax.. your too serous sometimes it's better to just to leave it alone and read something more constructive! than read our childish remarks!

relay there just words no feelings within just your head!

i love your work what you have done in hyperspin, and i use lots of it! and also follow your code! your a legend mate!

[Styphelus]

the stress of getting our pirated games to work on hyperspin! can get to you sometimes. just look at the walkthroughs to setup amiga it makes you mad!

i'm just waiting for a time where it gets easy to run!

I know, right? That tutorial is huge and for someone like me who knows nothing about this system, it becomes even more of a nightmare but I'm chugging along, step by step. Glad there is a tutorial or I would never be able to set this thing up.

Good thing we're all only here to setup emulators and do a bit of graphic design!

[Styphelus]

rfancella,

Thanks for this guide. Got everything working. However a lot of the games have a black bar at the bottom (ex 1943). Is there a way to get rid of that? I've tried different display settings but nothing seems to fix it.

PS: Never mind. Got it working by playing with the filter settings. Everything is perfect now. Never played any Amiga games before. Will finally give them a go this week.

[Styphelus]

I have everything working except that some games like 4x4 Off-Road Racing and Defender of the Crown give me the following error:

DOS-Error #205

(object not found)

on reading "devs:kickstarts/kick34005.a500

Now, I've renamed the Cloanto rom files from the Amiga Forever CD as per Whload instructions, I've downloaded several kickstart packages and I've followed a lot of "solutions" from other forums and nothing seems to fix this error. Does anyone have any idea on how to fix this? I do have the kick34005.a500 in the devs\kickstarts folder.

[Styphelus]

Anyone?

[gigapig]

Anyone?

Both of those games work for me although Defender of the crown trips up Hyperlaunch with a screen res issue.

I will send you my bios files to try, make you register them in Winuae.

[rfancella]

I have everything working except that some games like 4x4 Off-Road Racing and Defender of the Crown give me the following error:

DOS-Error #205

(object not found)

on reading "devs:kickstarts/kick34005.a500

Now, I've renamed the Cloanto rom files from the Amiga Forever CD as per Whload instructions, I've downloaded several kickstart packages and I've followed a lot of "solutions" from other forums and nothing seems to fix this error. Does anyone have any idea on how to fix this? I do have the kick34005.a500 in the devs\kickstarts folder.

Do you also have the matching .RTB file for that kickstart?

Not sure if it's needed, but mine works also.

Thanks,

Ron

[Styphelus]

Got it working. Thanks to everyone who helped me out, especially nathan197au and gigapig.

[nathan1974au]

found this!

http://aminet.net/util/boot/skick346.lha

[Turranius]

Don't know if anyone uses these, but I made a new "rom" pack for Commodore Amiga which is up to date until today.

Also added the Demos (609) as a seperate wheel (Commodore Amiga Demos). You can throw them into the same as "Commodore Amiga" if you want, but then you need to create a new xml (easy using "Create New HyperList.exe").

Check signature.

[Aorin]

Firstly I'd like to thank rfancella for this great tutorial and all here, seems that most here managed to get Amiga running after some hits and misses.

This is my 71th system I'm setting and I couldn't get this one to work.

I followed this step by step instructions so far, I got the WHD set in my roms directory, they are Zipped and inside them there are LHA files.

I followed strictly (or i believe so) the folders structure and the files needed, kickstarts, WHD updates, etc.

After setting all paths in HLHQ I audited my WHD roms and they all got green, when I try playing one of the 3000s, some get to bios expecting me to put the boot file in, and some games give me a strange "not enough memory, press left mouse to restart".

I have Amiga forever, if this for instance, have something to do with WHDload.key file, how do I find it in my Amiga forever setup?

I tried, among others, bart vs. space mutants and bart vs. the world, the first I got the black screen with red letters and the second, the insert media screen.

Thanks in advance!

[rfancella]

Firstly I'd like to thank rfancella for this great tutorial and all here, seems that most here managed to get Amiga running after some hits and misses.

This is my 71th system I'm setting and I couldn't get this one to work.

I followed this step by step instructions so far, I got the WHD set in my roms directory, they are Zipped and inside them there are LHA files.

I followed strictly (or i believe so) the folders structure and the files needed, kickstarts, WHD updates, etc.

After setting all paths in HLHQ I audited my WHD roms and they all got green, when I try playing one of the 3000s, some get to bios expecting me to put the boot file in, and some games give me a strange "not enough memory, press left mouse to restart".

I have Amiga forever, if this for instance, have something to do with WHDload.key file, how do I find it in my Amiga forever setup?

I tried, among others, bart vs. space mutants and bart vs. the world, the first I got the black screen with red letters and the second, the insert media screen.

Thanks in advance!

Hi, thank you for your kind words.

The issue you are having is with the roms. Inside the zip files should not be lha files. lha files are the Amiga equivalent of zip files. So they are double compressed.

Unzip one. And then open the lha file in WinRAR or some other compression utility. What is inside them??

If they are a single .info file and a directory. You just need to unzip them all so they are lha files. Then add lha into your WinUAE GLOBAL Emulator rom extensions.

Remove the zip files and the lha files should load right into WinUAE as they are. They are just like zip files.

Hope this helps.

Let me know how it goes.

Thanks,

Ron