Newest Windows 10 update (1803) breaks Hyperspin & Hyper HQ

[fr0stbyt3]

P.S Apparently HS and H.theme are not compiled the same way, HS is C/C++ 2003
while theme is visual basic.But thats beside the point [emoji14] will see if i can disassemble theme

Close.... HS has a few low level dlls that are in c++. But shh, stop giving away secrets. [emoji23]

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[Jaydeekay]

Huge thanks to everyone trying to get this worked out. I kinda feel useless here. I can follow directions well enough but I don’t know jack about coding. 

[wallmachine]

no worries.

[Bungles]

Even though we are in the future we are so behind in the times. My windows is yet to reach this update. 

You infected yet @wallmachine ?

[wallmachine]

18 minutes ago, Bungles said:

Even though we are in the future we are so behind in the times. My windows is yet to reach this update. 

You infected yet @wallmachine ?

I haven't got the update personally yet.

I don't use hyperspin so it won't effect me lol

[Krakerman]

13 hours ago, jasondavidcarr said:

Just to follow up here, I've tested Big Box now on four separate machines with the 1803 update without any issues. That's not to say that no one will have issues with Big Box and the 1803 update, but it's clear that it's not a widespread issue, as it has not come up on our forums and we have quite a few folks who have confirmed that it's working properly.

@jdm001 Let me know if you'd like to troubleshoot the issue either here or on the LaunchBox forums and we can dive in to see what might be going on over on your machine.

Godspeed @fr0stbyt3; hope everyone can get their systems back up and running soon.

Yes BigBox and LaunchBox/LaunchBox.next all work with 1803 update and for those interested I also got HyperMarquee working with BigBox due to issues with BigBox marquee screen options.

But hopefully the team can get HyperSpin's issue fixed soon!

Thanks!

[Rowr14]

1 hour ago, Bungles said:

Even though we are in the future we are so behind in the times. My windows is yet to reach this update. 

You infected yet @wallmachine ?

Seems like this update hasn't rolled out to Aus yet!

[fr0stbyt3]

Just now, Rowr14 said:

Seems like this update hasn't rolled out to Aus yet!

Most of the devs had to force the update here. You can do that from Microsoft's website. But... don't

[Krakerman]

If you guys want to revert back all you gotta do is type in the searchbox on the taskbar is "reset" and select Reset this PC and choose Go back to the previous version of Windows 10.

That's all!

 

Worked like a champ for me and HyperSpin was back up and running.

[fr0stbyt3]

3 minutes ago, Krakerman said:

If you guys want to revert back all you gotta do is type in the searchbox on the taskbar is "reset" and select Reset this PC and choose Go back to the previous version of Windows 10.

That's all!

 

Worked like a champ for me and HyperSpin was back up and running.

Very good point. In the meantime, we're gonna keep at it to find a permanent fix.

[jdm001]

 

18 hours ago, jasondavidcarr said:

Just to follow up here, I've tested Big Box now on four separate machines with the 1803 update without any issues. That's not to say that no one will have issues with Big Box and the 1803 update, but it's clear that it's not a widespread issue, as it has not come up on our forums and we have quite a few folks who have confirmed that it's working properly.

@jdm001 Let me know if you'd like to troubleshoot the issue either here or on the LaunchBox forums and we can dive in to see what might be going on over on your machine.

Godspeed @fr0stbyt3; hope everyone can get their systems back up and running soon.

 

Hi, I’d be happy to troubleshoot and I also have 7 different front ends on my drive:  HS, LaunchBox, EmuBox, RetroFE, GameEx, NewRetroArcade, MaximisArcade, and the HS over WiFi add on I forget the name of.

Also, I posted three links about windows update problem and what changed.  This IS a HUGE error and most definitely on windows’ radar.  Many programs stopped working besides HS/HHQ.

I have a Win10 fresh image for VirtualBox I can try too.  I’ll play around with it tomorrow night after work.

 

 

 

[jasondavidcarr]

5 hours ago, jdm001 said:

 

 

Hi, I’d be happy to troubleshoot and I also have 7 different front ends on my drive:  HS, LaunchBox, EmuBox, RetroFE, GameEx, NewRetroArcade, MaximisArcade, and the HS over WiFi add on I forget the name of.

Also, I posted three links about windows update problem and what changed.  This IS a HUGE error and most definitely on windows’ radar.  Many programs stopped working besides HS/HHQ.

I have a Win10 fresh image for VirtualBox I can try too.  I’ll play around with it tomorrow night after work.

 

 

 

Cool, would you be willing to start a thread on the LaunchBox forums for us to discuss back and forth? I'd hate to clutter up this thread too much further with mostly unrelated Big Box troubleshooting.

[fr0stbyt3]

Just now, jasondavidcarr said:

Cool, would you be willing to start a thread on the LaunchBox forums for us to discuss back and forth? I'd hate to clutter up this thread too much further with mostly unrelated Big Box troubleshooting.

YEAH, GET YOUR OWN WEBSITE!!! 

[jdm001]

2 hours ago, jasondavidcarr said:

Cool, would you be willing to start a thread on the LaunchBox forums for us to discuss back and forth? I'd hate to clutter up this thread too much further with mostly unrelated Big Box troubleshooting.

Sorry, I'm not on LB forums.  I don't really use it much.  I use 80% Hyperspin and 20% Emubox (which is a HS add-on but much faster on my system).  I just noticed it didn't work in my gaming group I'm a part of on Facebook, someone posted it stopped working and many others confirmed.  When one said Big Box stopped working for him too; I tried LaunchBox and it did same.

I don't have any affiliation with LB/BB nor am I an expert.  Just trying to help you guys

 

 

FYI Here's some links I posted that might help devs:

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/05/01/all-the-issues-of-windows-10-version-1803-you-may-run-into/

This article shows that MS originally held the update and mentioned some of the issues, I guess they THOUGHT they fixed everything and released it... obviously there was other issues they didn't fix that we are all dealing with:

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-holds-releasing-windows-10-version-1803-public

 

I'm at work, but did anyone try running it in compatibility mode like Windows7 or 8?  First thing I thought of was permissions and run as admin, I tried all those too; no luck.  But it just gave me an idea trying to run in compatibility mode... maybe, just maybe?

[jasondavidcarr]

2 hours ago, jdm001 said:

Sorry, I'm not on LB forums.  I don't really use it much.  I use 80% Hyperspin and 20% Emubox (which is a HS add-on but much faster on my system).  I just noticed it didn't work in my gaming group I'm a part of on Facebook, someone posted it stopped working and many others confirmed.  When one said Big Box stopped working for him too; I tried LaunchBox and it did same.

I don't have any affiliation with LB/BB nor am I an expert.  Just trying to help you guys

 

 

FYI Here's some links I posted that might help devs:

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/05/01/all-the-issues-of-windows-10-version-1803-you-may-run-into/

This article shows that MS originally held the update and mentioned some of the issues, I guess they THOUGHT they fixed everything and released it... obviously there was other issues they didn't fix that we are all dealing with:

https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-holds-releasing-windows-10-version-1803-public

 

I'm at work, but did anyone try running it in compatibility mode like Windows7 or 8?  First thing I thought of was permissions and run as admin, I tried all those too; no luck.  But it just gave me an idea trying to run in compatibility mode... maybe, just maybe?

I'm so lost on this because it hasn't been reported even once anywhere else, but I guess we'll just press on and see if it comes up again. Thanks, jdm.

[dragon57]

My Launchbox and Bigbox work fine under 1803 here. I have even tried installing them under an upgraded 1803 situation and a fresh install of 1803 and haven't seen any issues.

My first thought about Hyperspin was to use my go to Dependency walker app on the Hyperspin related executables, but ironically, the app itself will not run under 1803. How is that for a kick in the head?

I am continuing to test things out and will report back if anything comes up of interest.

I appreciate all the admins here working this issue.

[rcdash]

 

Anything that needs Adobe Flash will likely no longer work under Win 10 (officially anyway)

https://forums.adobe.com/message/10348205#10348205

 

 

[Kondorito]

9 minutes ago, rcdash said:

 

Anything that needs Adobe Flash will likely no longer work under Win 10 (officially anyway)

https://forums.adobe.com/message/10348205#10348205

 

 

So, basically every HS theme using swf... Right? 

[fr0stbyt3]

Quick update: We were able to debug the app and find the actual errors causing the crash. We're still coming up with a solution, but we're on it.

I'll keep updating everyone here.

[dragon57]

1 hour ago, fr0stbyt3 said:

Quick update: We were able to debug the app and find the actual errors causing the crash. We're still coming up with a solution, but we're on it.

I'll keep updating everyone here.

Wonderful news! Thanks for the update.

[Krakerman]

Adobe Flash is working on my end using various programs on 1803 update. 

[madduke]

Thanks for the update

 

I was like mad trying to start, tried even older Hyperspin versions and my backed up one  

I thought it had something to do with the Spectre, Meltdown and other patches which keep updating lately.   Can't wait to have the system up and running again. 

 

[pauliewaulie74]

what about trying to install .net runtime 1.1

[pauliewaulie74]

ignore that last comment by me as i have no clue really.

[gigapig]

Big thank you to all our loyal Hyperspin members for trying to troubleshoot the problem and bearing with us.