MAME 0.249 ROM Mapping (Clones) project

[floatingyeti]

5 hours ago, Creezz67 said:

What a bummer about the limitations.

It's unfortunate but I still appreciate r0man0's effort.

I completed an ini file with just the clones in my database and it's still small enough to work properly.

I'm doing this to bring attention to the Rocketlauncher feature. I think it needs some more development.

Hopefully what I made will show that there's enough interest to justify further development.

[floatingyeti]

I must have exceeded the limit with my rom mapping ini because I'm getting the RLDLL.split_path error when accessing some parents with clones.

There is nothing wrong with the file.  The rom mapping feature has ever been attempted at this scale and I don't think there is enough interest to get it fixed.

I'm disappointed that I put so much time and effort into a broken feature.

 

[r0man0]

I didn't know about this rom mapping trick, but when I came across your post it interested me and so I coded a bit to generate the ini file because manually it would have taken too long for sure , then I tried it on my hyperspin+rocketlauncher config, it works well for me, I have the full set of mame 250 (Split) and it doesn't lag or get an error message, but I find the selection interface a bit empty.. I mean is there no possibility to display artworks and wheels on the clone selection interface? I haven't found how to do it. If you know how to do that I would be interested.

[floatingyeti]

It can work it you have every listed clone in your rom set but still some games will cause an error message.

If RL has to validate ever rom is present, then future changes to your romset could break functionality.

I don't think there is an option for wheels in the Rom Mapping submenu, but I believe the background art can change.  It looks like each parent rom can have its own directory in the Rom Mapping folder with unique background images.  I have not attempted yet.

here is my final ini if anyone wants to experiment: MAME_Clones.ini

Right now, Rom Mapping is very buggy and without any artwork but there is potential. Maybe someone will create backgrounds?

 

[Creezz67]

8 hours ago, floatingyeti said:

It can work it you have every listed clone in your rom set but still some games will cause an error message.

If RL has to validate ever rom is present, then future changes to your romset could break functionality.

I don't think there is an option for wheels in the Rom Mapping submenu, but I believe the background art can change.  It looks like each parent rom can have its own directory in the Rom Mapping folder with unique background images.  I have not attempted yet.

here is my final ini if anyone wants to experiment: MAME_Clones.ini

Right now, Rom Mapping is very buggy and without any artwork but there is potential. Maybe someone will create backgrounds?

 

Backgrounds work by default from the Rocketlauncher/Media/Backgrounds folder.

This says to me that the Logos should also work, but I can't see where they need to go (I thought in the logos folders, but it doesn't work)

 

[pequetren]

9 hours ago, floatingyeti said:

It can work it you have every listed clone in your rom set but still some games will cause an error message.

If RL has to validate ever rom is present, then future changes to your romset could break functionality.

I don't think there is an option for wheels in the Rom Mapping submenu, but I believe the background art can change.  It looks like each parent rom can have its own directory in the Rom Mapping folder with unique background images.  I have not attempted yet.

here is my final ini if anyone wants to experiment: MAME_Clones.ini

Right now, Rom Mapping is very buggy and without any artwork but there is potential. Maybe someone will create backgrounds?

 

Thank you very much for sharing your work, I can't put the download directly but if you comment where you can get fanart backgrounds for MAME, there is a great pack of these backgrounds on the CORE TYPE R discord.
Attached invitation link

https://discord.gg/vzmTJcue

I hope I am not breaking any rules.
Best regards

[pequetren]

20 hours ago, r0man0 said:

I didn't know about this rom mapping trick, but when I came across your post it interested me and so I coded a bit to generate the ini file because manually it would have taken too long for sure , then I tried it on my hyperspin+rocketlauncher config, it works well for me, I have the full set of mame 250 (Split) and it doesn't lag or get an error message, but I find the selection interface a bit empty.. I mean is there no possibility to display artworks and wheels on the clone selection interface? I haven't found how to do it. If you know how to do that I would be interested.

 

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Thank you for your great work and share it with us, your knowledge in programming the truth is that it takes many hours of effort, I am subscribed to your youtube channel and I regularly visit your page to find out what's new.
Best regards

[Creezz67]

9 hours ago, floatingyeti said:

It can work it you have every listed clone in your rom set but still some games will cause an error message.

If RL has to validate ever rom is present, then future changes to your romset could break functionality.

I don't think there is an option for wheels in the Rom Mapping submenu, but I believe the background art can change.  It looks like each parent rom can have its own directory in the Rom Mapping folder with unique background images.  I have not attempted yet.

here is my final ini if anyone wants to experiment: MAME_Clones.ini

Right now, Rom Mapping is very buggy and without any artwork but there is potential. Maybe someone will create backgrounds?

 

Hi, fyi I tried this and examples like Galaga and Phoenix clones are not showing for me.

Seems that the early ones like 1942 etc all work fine, but maybe further down they are not being read correctly ?

[Creezz67]

21 hours ago, r0man0 said:

I didn't know about this rom mapping trick, but when I came across your post it interested me and so I coded a bit to generate the ini file because manually it would have taken too long for sure , then I tried it on my hyperspin+rocketlauncher config, it works well for me, I have the full set of mame 250 (Split) and it doesn't lag or get an error message, but I find the selection interface a bit empty.. I mean is there no possibility to display artworks and wheels on the clone selection interface? I haven't found how to do it. If you know how to do that I would be interested.

 

sorry for the size , i've copied and paste from Google translate,and i cannot édit size in that post from my phone

• This feature allows you to use alternate rom and/or archive filenames, different than what's defined in your database (xml).
• Main use of this is so you can use an official database and match it up with your, using Tosec as an example, tosec-named ISOs
• With the Launch Menu enabled, you can present the user with a choice of slightly different versions of roms to choose from. For example, USA, Spanish, Translated-Japanese, hacked, etc.
• Backgrounds for the menu are pulled from your "Media\Backgrounds" folders.

[r0man0]

13 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

• This feature allows you to use alternate rom and/or archive filenames, different than what's defined in your database (xml).
• Main use of this is so you can use an official database and match it up with your, using Tosec as an example, tosec-named ISOs
• With the Launch Menu enabled, you can present the user with a choice of slightly different versions of roms to choose from. For example, USA, Spanish, Translated-Japanese, hacked, etc.
• Backgrounds for the menu are pulled from your "Media\Backgrounds" folders.

Yes Creezz67 , that's interesting me , but how can i show the real title of the rom (description) instead of the Mame rom name into clone menu selection , does the ini need another entry ?

43 minutes ago, pequetren said:

Thank you for your great work and share it with us, your knowledge in programming the truth is that it takes many hours of effort, I am subscribed to your youtube channel and I regularly visit your page to find out what's new.
Best regards

Thank you for subscribtion  , for the moment no more vids , just updating mame xml full lists into my website , I have to update handheld package , but i 'm waiting for an update of artworks from progetto snaps , ... so wait and see

[Creezz67]

23 minutes ago, r0man0 said:

Yes Creezz67 , that's interesting me , but how can i show the real title of the rom (description) instead of the Mame rom name into clone menu selection , does the ini need another entry ?

Thank you for subscribtion  , for the moment no more vids , just updating mame xml full lists into my website , I have to update handheld package , but i 'm waiting for an update of artworks from progetto snaps , ... so wait and see

Like this you mean ?

[r0man0]

Yes , like this

[Creezz67]

1 minute ago, r0man0 said:

Yes , like this

You say you use split MAME set ?

Above image is using split set, but I just tried merged set and it only shows 1942a, 1942p etc

[r0man0]

5 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

You say you use split MAME set ?

Above image is using split set, but I just tried merged set and it only shows 1942a, 1942p etc

Yes i use Split set, and it shows like you in merged set : 1942a,1942p etc...

That's may be an option or something like that,but i don't see witch one

[Creezz67]

49 minutes ago, r0man0 said:

Yes i use Split set, and it shows like you in merged set : 1942a,1942p etc...

That's may be an option or something like that,but i don't see witch one

I have your xml working now, but I needed to download the MAME merged set to get it to work and also show the names correctly.

It now shows ALL the clones rather than just 1 or 2 for each game.

Also the column width needs to be widened in Rocketlauncher rom mapping settings to show full name

Do you have a full MAME 0.250 xml without clones on it ?

SEE MAME SETTINGS BELOW USING MERGED ROMSET 0.250

 

 

 

 

[r0man0]

I've an full 0.250 mame list with clones xml, i've tryied to set Menu width from 400 to 800 but still showing the rom name instead of rom description

 

[Creezz67]

20 hours ago, r0man0 said:

I've an full 0.250 mame list with clones xml, i've tryied to set Menu width from 400 to 800 but still showing the rom name instead of rom description

 

Did you see my settings above ?

 

[r0man0]

20 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

Did you see my settings above ?

I've set as yours rom mapping settings but same thing : no title with description , i've tryied with the original module , but same thing !

[Creezz67]

19 hours ago, r0man0 said:

I've set as yours rom mapping settings but same thing : no title with description , i've tryied with the original module , but same thing !

are you using merged romset ?

replace your split set 1942.zip with this merged 1942.zip rom just to test and see if names show correctly.

PS, Set you skip checks to rom extension for the test in Rocketlauncher

 

 

[r0man0]

I've tryied you're 1942.zip instead of my set, and still no description ,the games runs well but my rom mapping menu is not very interesting...

maybe if somebody have the same issue and have solve the problem , tell me how ? 

[Creezz67]

3 minutes ago, r0man0 said:

I've tryied you're 1942.zip instead of my set, and still no description ,the games runs well but my rom mapping menu is not very interesting...

maybe if somebody have the same issue and have solve the problem , tell me how ? 

is RL running as admin ?

[r0man0]

9 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

is RL running as admin ?

Yes RL & Hyperspin in admin

[Creezz67]

18 hours ago, r0man0 said:

Yes RL & Hyperspin in admin

Here is my global settings, just in case some of your global settings for MAME are different

 

[r0man0]

I've set exactly as yours , (global & mame rom mapping settings) , but exept size and columns , nothing change (no description)

[Creezz67]

3 minutes ago, r0man0 said:

I've set exactly as yours , (global & mame rom mapping settings) , but exept size and columns , nothing change (no description)

post your main settings screen ?