MAME 0.249 ROM Mapping (Clones) project

[Creezz67]

18 hours ago, Creezz67 said:

post your main settings screen ?

 

18 hours ago, r0man0 said:

I've set exactly as yours , (global & mame rom mapping settings) , but exept size and columns , nothing change (no description)

 

 

[r0man0]

Main settings for mame

Rom mapping settings for mame : 

 

 

 

 

[Creezz67]

18 hours ago, r0man0 said:

Main settings for mame

Rom mapping settings for mame : 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[floatingyeti]

2 hours ago, r0man0 said:

I've set exactly as yours , (global & mame rom mapping settings) , but exept size and columns , nothing change (no description)

Sorry but that feature is not in the Rom Mapping yet. All you can do is display a background.

It is frustrating because wheel support and full (clone) description info should be implemented.

[floatingyeti]

Merged set:

Will not work with (clones) Rom Mapping. If you check RM process in RL log viewer, it searches for the (clone) rom within your rom directory by extension.  it can't search within the merged (zip)

Split set:

Will work as long as parent and clone roms are present.

Non-Merged:

Will work as long as parent and clone roms are present. It's disappointing that you can't utilize the best feature of this set and filter (remove) unused roms to save space with a full generated ini (r0man0's version). RL will crash if all clones listed in ini are not present.

I did fix my RLDLL.splitPath error.

I had spaces after the rom names in my ini file for a few random clones.

I have trimmed all trailing spaces and its completely working. 

It only contains clones listed in my database (smallest file/list size) and contains clone descriptions. It will also allow you to use my database/ini with non-merged set and remove unused roms to save space.

MAME_Clones.ini

[r0man0]

2 hours ago, Creezz67 said:

set skip checks to "rom extension" instead of false (when using merged 1942.zip) for the test or "rom only" for split set

7z to false

match extension (try true) though i use both false and true and it works

 

No more description shown by RL into rom mapping menu. Do you use a clones.ini file different than mine ?

[r0man0]

47 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

Sorry but that feature is not in the Rom Mapping yet. All you can do is display a background.

It is frustrating because wheel support and full (clone) description info should be implemented.

For me it doesn't works of course , but i want to know why Creez67 have this rom mapping menu :

There is the description , genre , year and not rom name for its rom mapping menu

so How is it possible , that's my question !

 

[floatingyeti]

4 minutes ago, r0man0 said:

There is the description , genre , year and not rom name for its rom mapping menu

so How is it possible , that's my question !

It's the current limitation of Rom Mapping menu.

The description, genre, and year with only show on the parent rom.

We can't "fix" this.

[pequetren]

6 minutes ago, r0man0 said:

For me it doesn't works of course , but i want to know why Creez67 have this rom mapping menu :

There is the description , genre , year and not rom name for its rom mapping menu

so How is it possible , that's my question !

 

I have not tested if it can be seen because I did not finish downloading the files but could it be that RL needs to have the database of that system in its databases folder? Some users don't know why they need to have the system databases in hyperspin and in RL for RL to work. Pronounced "Creez67" if you have the databases this way.

[floatingyeti]

40 minutes ago, pequetren said:

could it be that RL needs to have the database of that system in its databases folder?

Yes, I think that's true of all systems but it won't have any effect on the Rom Mapping menu.

 

 

[Creezz67]

15 hours ago, r0man0 said:

No more description shown by RL into rom mapping menu. Do you use a clones.ini file different than mine ?

No, I am using your MAME clones 0.250.ini

[Creezz67]

15 hours ago, pequetren said:

I have not tested if it can be seen because I did not finish downloading the files but could it be that RL needs to have the database of that system in its databases folder? Some users don't know why they need to have the system databases in hyperspin and in RL for RL to work. Pronounced "Creez67" if you have the databases this way.

Yes I have databases in both Hyperspin and RocketLauncher as some systems don't function correctly without them (for me anyway)

[floatingyeti]

41 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

No, I am using your MAME clones 0.250.ini

I fixed my ini file and uploaded a new version. It only displays the filtered list of "worthwhile" clones that Milansoft and I have researched.

r0man0's ini is also functional and I appreciate it (I requested it).

I thought that the ini file would only display the clones found in my database but r0man0's ini will display every clone in the mame romset.

 

[Creezz67]

5 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

I fixed my ini file and uploaded a new version. It only displays the filtered list of "worthwhile" clones that Milansoft and I have researched.

r0man0's ini displays every clone in the mame romset.

Hi,

I will try you new ini as the previous one was not working on many games, or just showing 1 clone maximum on games even when there were say 10.

[floatingyeti]

15 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

I will try you new ini as the previous one was not working on many games, or just showing 1 clone maximum on games even when there were say 10.

I fixed the games that wouldn't launch the rom mapping menu.

You might want to keep using r0man0's ini to see the maximum amount of clones.

It just comes down to personal preference. I wanted to explain the difference between the two inis.

I can maintain/update both ini files each month to provide the option of RM complete or filtered clone set.

[Creezz67]

23 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

I fixed my ini file and uploaded a new version. It only displays the filtered list of "worthwhile" clones that Milansoft and I have researched.

r0man0's ini displays every clone in the mame romset.

Your ini file works fine now, but it will not show the clone names correctly with the xml you are using.

see attached to see what I mean (top one is using my xml, bottom is using yours)

[Creezz67]

5 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

I fixed the games that wouldn't launch the rom mapping menu.

You might want to keep using r0man0's ini to see the maximum amount of clones.

It just comes down to personal preference. I wanted to explain the difference between the two inis.

It's not the ini that's the problem, it's the xml. Try using a FULL xml (all games) for 0.250 from Romano and it will show all game clone names rather than the rom names.

The xml is irrelevant to your setup as you are using wheels only and parents only etc

[floatingyeti]

Interesting, and confusing, because I am using a modified version of r0man0's 0.249 database.

Can you upload the xml you are using?

I will compare them and see what the difference is.

[Creezz67]

8 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

Interesting, and confusing, because I am using a modified version of r0man0's 0.249 database.

Can you upload the xml you are using?

I will compare them and see what the difference is.

This is the FULL MAME.xml that includes ALL games, not just working games.

This will be fine though for this setup because you are using wheels only so it will only ever look for the working games you ask it to, plus it will give you the names of all the clones.

MAME full games 0.250.xml

[Creezz67]

28 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

Interesting, and confusing, because I am using a modified version of r0man0's 0.249 database.

Can you upload the xml you are using?

I will compare them and see what the difference is.

Also see Phoenix for example using full clone list Romano sent (34 clones instead of 9) Keep in mind I am using a merged set to get 34 clones.

[floatingyeti]

2 minutes ago, Creezz67 said:

All see Phoenix for example using full clone list Romano sent (34 clones instead of 9)

Yes

Romano's will display every clone.

My ini will only show a filtered list of "worthy" clones.

Both are correct.

 

I was trying to point out that my ini file is filtered. It matches my database of parents and worthy clones (The purpose of my project)

It looks like you prefer to see every clone on the list. You should use Romano's file.

I'm not using the full working 0.250, I'm using my custom database.

My whole project and future updates (And Missing Themes Project) are structured around my ongoing custom database.

 

[Creezz67]

1 minute ago, floatingyeti said:

Yes

Romano's will display every clone.

My ini will only show a filtered list of "worthy" clones.

Both are correct.

 

I was trying to point out that my ini file is filtered. It matches my database of parents and worthy clones (The purpose of my project)

It looks like you prefer to see every clone on the list. You should use Romano's file.

I'm not using the full working 0.250, I'm using my custom database.

My whole project and future updates (And Missing Themes Project) are structured around my ongoing custom database.

 

Maybe we should have just left you to your project as you seem to be taking offense that his xml and ini makes your project even better.

I was not even aware of what rom mapping did until I seen your setup so all your work is appreciated, but if you are really saying less clones (and all clone names being listed)are better to be shown than more clones, then I don't see that as being a good idea.

[Creezz67]

5 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

Yes

Romano's will display every clone.

My ini will only show a filtered list of "worthy" clones.

Both are correct.

 

I was trying to point out that my ini file is filtered. It matches my database of parents and worthy clones (The purpose of my project)

It looks like you prefer to see every clone on the list. You should use Romano's file.

I'm not using the full working 0.250, I'm using my custom database.

My whole project and future updates (And Missing Themes Project) are structured around my ongoing custom database.

 

The database is irrelevant as I have said, because you have got it using wheels only, so it will always only show games that have wheels and not every game on the database.

Also when you finally get all the themes and set it to themes only, it will only show those games on the wheel.

Good luck with your project, it has certainly made MAME 100 times better for me now

[floatingyeti]

This is weird

If I launch directly from RL:

from HS:

Are my HyperHQ settings wrong?

 

[Creezz67]

2 minutes ago, floatingyeti said:

This is weird

If I launch directly from RL:

from HS:

Are my HyperHQ settings wrong?

 

Are you using a merged romset ?