dante Posted October 2, 2011 Posted October 2, 2011 Wow, very clean! I hope mine looks like that when I get to wiring, but alas, it most likely won't
Typefighter01 Posted October 2, 2011 Posted October 2, 2011 Looks good DeeGor. Where did you score the 3 port USB hub you have mounted on the back of your cab?
maxxsinner Posted October 2, 2011 Posted October 2, 2011 Looks great DeeGor. Electropin - Enough lights to land a jet on an aircraft carrierHigh Voltage Pinball - Cause one build just wasn't enough Voltek Arcade - Funglo pedestal style mame cabinet Pinball Electrical Tutorial - Wire All Your Bling With Confidence and Fewer House Fires
DeeGor Posted October 2, 2011 Author Posted October 2, 2011 Thanks guys. It sure is a lot of work to keep it all tidy, but I like how it's all turning out. @Typefighter01: amazon.com has a fairly large selection of them. Just search for "Desk USB Hub". I went with this particular one because it had audio. I wanted to be able to use headphones at night when the kids are sleeping.
pinballlooking Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Looks good so far.How does the cheaper solenoids sound? I was thinking of using them for pop up bumpers and ramp gates What relays did you use? Did you put diodes on the relays for these? Your build is looking great. My Pinball Cabinet:http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15290
DeeGor Posted October 3, 2011 Author Posted October 3, 2011 Actually I didn't. With the way I originally wired up the relays, there really wasn't a place to put one. I'm in the process of creating a relay board instead of the mess I have right now that will have them connected. Just waiting for some screw terminals. The solenoids function fine without them, but I've heard that it can cause problems down the road if a diode is not in place.
DeeGor Posted October 4, 2011 Author Posted October 4, 2011 Finally attached my backbox to the cabinet. Also put in LEDs for the speakers. The LEDs are recessed into the wood, but were still pretty bright. I put a little silicone over them to tone down the intensity and I like how it turned out.
Guest gstav Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Nice glow effect on the speakers there DG! Looks great!
Darkfall Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 Actually I didn't. With the way I originally wired up the relays, there really wasn't a place to put one. I'm in the process of creating a relay board instead of the mess I have right now that will have them connected. Just waiting for some screw terminals.The solenoids function fine without them, but I've heard that it can cause problems down the road if a diode is not in place. I didn't have any problems with the cheap solenoids and no diodes. I did have a problem with my contactors not having diodes, though. Diodes are cheap, though - like $0.30 each. You don't need huge ones - they're just blocking power flow in one direction. ...Paul Check out Wildfire Pinball's build details here: Project Wildfire
Darkfall Posted October 4, 2011 Posted October 4, 2011 The glow on the speakers does look pretty cool. ...Paul Check out Wildfire Pinball's build details here: Project Wildfire
sacredgaming Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I sent over a pm as i am very interested in using what you've used. A master thread about these relays and solenoids would be awesome as im sure you know it takes alot of time to read through all the builds and see what works and what doesnt. I've ordered my led wiz and all parts but, am just missing the core components of your build being which relays which contacts what kind of psu did you use for 12 and 24v ect. I am still a little confused at how ledblinky interacts with the your setup? perhaps you or someone could elaborate. thanks again and sweet build.
DeeGor Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 I originally used this 12v external power supply, but I ended up frying it when I accidently connected it on the same circuit as my 24v power supply. Instead of buying a new one, I just converted an old PC power supply instead. As for the force feedback I would suggest picking up some contactors. I picked up 6 of the Seimens contactors that a few on this forum use, and they work really well. Unfortunately they're really hard to find in the states without having to shell out like $60/ea. A possible alternative to the Seimens contactors are these GE miniature contactors. There are also the allelectronics.com pull type solenoids. They're dirt cheap at just under $2, but be warned they're pretty loud. The solenoids also need a relay, as they use too much power to be directly connected to the LEDWiz. There is actually an add-on for VP that allows the pinball table rom to control the outputs of the ledwiz. So, no LEDBlinky needed. Here is the thread on where to find it and how to use it. It's actually pretty straight forward.
DeeGor Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 I was finally able to get my computer parts purchased. I was originally going to wait till Black Friday to get the best deal, but I ended up getting impatient and purchased it anyway. I am a little disappointed that I didn't go with a modular power supply. If I were to do it again, I would definitely purchase one. Cable management is a real bitch when you have all of those cables to have to deal with. Especially when I didn't even end up using half of them. Here's the cabinet all up and running. I still need to get the artwork done and get the glass and side rails on. I'm an avid comic book fan, and reading comics on the 46" LED was awesome.
Darkfall Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 The art for that comic is nicely done. Maybe that's an idea for cabinet art? A mashup of comics, or something. ...Paul Check out Wildfire Pinball's build details here: Project Wildfire
mameman Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Nice PM me for any custom CNC needs. Find me on Facebook.. Xtreme Pinball or www.xtremepinball.com Ipad pinball cabinet iFlipper Here: See the Doctor Who build Here.... / See the Tron build Here.... / See the BattleStar Galactica build Here.... See the Big Bang Bar build Here.... / See the Twilight Zone build Here.... CNC Work Here.....
DeeGor Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 The art for that comic is nicely done. Maybe that's an idea for cabinet art? A mashup of comics, or something. I was leaning towards that at one point, but finally decided to go with the LEGO Batman theme instead. From the beginning of this build I had always planned on using a Microsoft Sidewinder Freestyle Pro gamepad for nudging after seeing gstav's thread, but since I had purchased the Nanotech plunger, I thought I would give the built in accelerometer a fair try. I spent a week trying to configure the damn thing and I could never get nudging to work exactly the way I wanted. I spent hours calibrating, recalibrating, and calibrating some more. The accelerometer is either too sensitive where it would fire if there was absolutely no movement in the machine other than fans spinning, or I would have to body check into the machine to get it to fire. I also tried using dxtweaks to introduce a deadzone, but that didn't work out very well either. Frustrated, I decided to go back to my original plan of using the gamepad. I had the thing up and running with xpadder in less than half an hour. That includes mounting it in my cabinet. It worked perfectly, and xpadder has a great tool for adjusting the deadzone. Now I just have to figure out why the screen goes black for half a second when I nudge occasionally. I thought I had read something up on it before in another thread.
chriz99 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Now I just have to figure out why the screen goes black for half a second when I nudge occasionally. I thought I had read something up on it before in another thread. I think its the "startshake" bug on the newer nvidia drivers. mostly on "left nudge", right? cheers chris [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] * taito egret 29 candy cabs * indy & star wars pachinkos 17" bartop with ledwiz rgbleds * 10" bubble bobble & galaga bartop * arm champs 2 check out hi-res backglasses * best vpin performance * ledwiz config and software
DeeGor Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 Yes, exactly. Are there drivers that are not affected by this bug? Or is there any sort of other workaround?
DeeGor Posted October 17, 2011 Author Posted October 17, 2011 I found this thread concerning the issue. I'll try rolling back to the 182.50 drivers tonight. Another thing mentioned was to comment out the startshake function, so I'll try that too.
pinballlooking Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 You are farther along in your build than me but I wonder if you could try analog nudging. http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14739 My Pinball Cabinet:http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15290
sacredgaming Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 So i followed your advice and purchased 6 siemens contactors on ebay for $12 each lightly used ofcourse now to find two more @pinball he is using the freestyle pro. He said the nanotech one didnt work well.
kronic24601 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I found this thread concerning the issue. I'll try rolling back to the 182.50 drivers tonight. Another thing mentioned was to comment out the startshake function, so I'll try that too. Hmm ... once you test please post back. I have the NANO tech item and preferred to keep things simple. I'll scroll through that other thread as well. Thanks! My Evil Arcade Monkey shakes when ever I'm having arcade problems ... notice how he is always shaking
DeeGor Posted October 19, 2011 Author Posted October 19, 2011 So I tried rolling back to the 182.50 drivers and the video went completely black upon reboot, and I was never able to recover. Even after reinstalling the new drivers in safe mode. Luckily I imaged the drive before installing. I'm thinking the 182.50 drivers I found are not the correct ones for my video card (GTX 260). Unfortunately they're not available on the nvidia site anymore. The md5sum of the drivers I was able to find is: 11ed20c27ea3df0ed4b92116ea571341 182.50_geforce_winxp_32bit_english_whql.exe Can anyone with the 182.50 drivers verify that I have the right ones?
mwong168 Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Here are the 182.50 drivers I used for almost a year in XP before I switched to Win7 64bit http://www.sendspace.com/file/hirr3p
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