Hyperspin Intel HD4000 No Videos

showstopper · February 14, 2014

This isn't really a solution for a lot of people who are adopting the miniPC format, which is ideal for plenty of HS builds. You can't just add a dedicated graphics card to these systems. The built in graphics chipsets on Intel's processors don't "suck". Sure, they're nowhere near as good as dedicated GPUs, but there's no reason why you would need one of those for playing preview videos on a front end. People keep speculating that this is a HyperSpin issue, but I don't think that's the case either-- there's something off with whatever codec that EmuMovies is using for their mp4s that, when played inside of HS, is causing an issue. As someone else stated before, if you convert them to mp4s with ffmpeg, they work just fine, and I've also converted them to mp4 using other video conversion software and they play perfectly within HS, but there's no way I'm going to sit here and convert 1,000+ bum video files individually. For now, the solution seems to be to use EM's batch flv converter, but this is also not ideal because they take up so much unnecessary (and precious) HD space. Obviously, Intel doesn't give a crap about whether or not EM's mp4 files play properly within HS, but I can tell you for sure that you can convert them to a more standard mp4 format that doesn't take up any more space than the originals and they work perfectly, so this isn't an Intel issue. Simply saying that Intel sucks isn't particularly helpful.

It cant be the codec as the same emumovie file plays fine outside of hyperspin. Simple troubleshooting always points to hyperspin in this case.

Does the mp4 file play in windows in all your media players = Yes

Does the same file play in HS = No

Monyet · February 17, 2014

I'm not a driver creator, but since AMD and nVidia don't have a problem playing those same files outside and inside of Hyperspin, it makes me think that the intel driver is the problem. I just bumped my thread over at the intel forums, I'm starting to get on the guys nerves, his responses are getting shorter, but still the same response - "When I get any feedback from the engineering department I will post it here."

Has anyone else put in request for a fix over there yet?

Polemicist · February 18, 2014

Guys with Intel issues. Can you test something for me. I popped a sample MP4 file with an SWF file (and also the original FLA file if you are a flash person) into

/Upload Here/Polemicist/Sample Video at Angle in SWF

on the FTP. Can one of you guys grab the SWF and MP4 and just play the SWF. All it does is load the movie which is playing at an angle. Do you get the same artifacting issues?

showstopper · February 18, 2014

Guys with Intel issues. Can you test something for me. I popped a sample MP4 file with an SWF file (and also the original FLA file if you are a flash person) into
/Upload Here/Polemicist/Sample Video at Angle in SWF

on the FTP. Can one of you guys grab the SWF and MP4 and just play the SWF. All it does is load the movie which is playing at an angle. Do you get the same artifacting issues?

So copy the mp4 and the swf and test in HS right?

Same issue mate.

Polemicist · February 19, 2014

No not in HyperSpin just desktop.

cass · February 19, 2014

Been pretty busy the past few weeks.

Polemicist, I've downloaded both files to desktop and opened the swf;

Nothing happens. It just stays white.

Opened up the mp4 and plays the fighting scene with no probs.

Anything else you would like to test out?

Polemicist · February 19, 2014

Crap. That might be absolute path issue as well. Damn forgot about that. Thanks for testing. I'll make another or if anyone has Flash CS6 or higher they can use the FLA or make their own. I just want for you guys to be able to take a generic SWF and use that for your escalation to Intel. SWF is very common but HyperSpin is probably considered boutique software and ignored. Just trying to help

relic · February 19, 2014

its strange but i get the same problem when testing romjackets version of hyperspin and thats with mp4s however i tried flvs and they work superior no fuzzyness with them but its clear that mp4s dont work on early versions of hyperspin and the weird thing is sudopinion said he had the latest hyperspin installed through it so by right it should work no troubles with mp4 i mean even my pc is an intel but all the videos work no problem for me with the main hyperspin i do have nvidia video card

cass · February 19, 2014

Crap. That might be absolute path issue as well. Damn forgot about that. Thanks for testing. I'll make another or if anyone has Flash CS6 or higher they can use the FLA or make their own. I just want for you guys to be able to take a generic SWF and use that for your escalation to Intel. SWF is very common but HyperSpin is probably considered boutique software and ignored. Just trying to help

Where is the main swf that encapsulates all loading of video on the wheel located at?

I am wondering if it has to do with version discrepancy.

cass · February 19, 2014

Polemicist, you might be onto something...

I created the file path, dropped the mp4 in there and kept the sample.swf on the dekstop.

Opened up the swf on desktop and it opened up the mp4 within the file structure created.

momentarydogma · February 19, 2014

It cant be the codec as the same emumovie file plays fine outside of hyperspin. Simple troubleshooting always points to hyperspin in this case.
Does the mp4 file play in windows in all your media players = Yes

Does the same file play in HS = No

I really think it's a combination of the two... a fix on either side would probably do the trick. Just because I can play it in another media player doesn't necessarily mean that HS is broken. The fact that the issue is limited to those specific Intel GFX chips says something about the way the Intel drivers are handling them within HS. Standalone media players all have different ways of handling specific codecs, so the fact that it plays on VLC or WMP doesn't really mean a whole lot. In any event, HS isn't handling the codec properly on HD2500 and HD4000 chips, and Intel's drivers are also not handling it properly within HS. I guess the burden is more on the HS team to ensure that different codecs play within their software on a variety of GFX chips, but Intel has done something non-standard that is preventing this specific codec from playing with HS as well. I moved back to the .flvs and I guess that's just fine for the time being.

Polemicist · February 19, 2014

Guys with Intel issues. Can you test something for me. I popped a sample MP4 file with an SWF file (and also the original FLA file if you are a flash person) into
/Upload Here/Polemicist/Sample Video at Angle in SWF

on the FTP. Can one of you guys grab the SWF and MP4 and just play the SWF. All it does is load the movie which is playing at an angle. Do you get the same artifacting issues?

Crap. That might be absolute path issue as well. Damn forgot about that. Thanks for testing. I'll make another or if anyone has Flash CS6 or higher they can use the FLA or make their own. I just want for you guys to be able to take a generic SWF and use that for your escalation to Intel. SWF is very common but HyperSpin is probably considered boutique software and ignored. Just trying to help

OK yeah been a while since I did Video players in flash. The SWF file expects the Video file to be in one place. I have updated the files in the folder above to work from the Root of your C:\ drive so stick all the files into C:\ and play. Should load. My interest is to see if we can create a failure. Dunno if you guys saw it but Jumpstile and a few others found that when they left HyperSpin running in attract mode the application would lock and leave the white screen with exclamation mark which is a Flash thing. So I wanted to see if playing the video in flash caused the same issue. Running files like this in flash kinda sucks actually.

Where is the main swf that encapsulates all loading of video on the wheel located at?
I am wondering if it has to do with version discrepancy.

Not sure how HyperSpin actually works at its core so hard to say what encapsulates what.

Polemicist, you might be onto something...
I created the file path, dropped the mp4 in there and kept the sample.swf on the dekstop.

Opened up the swf on desktop and it opened up the mp4 within the file structure created.

So when it opens does it play? and if you stuff around with versions does it stuff up. Just hoping to find something that causes an issue. Would be nice to get some action on this even if I don't use micro systems many people do.

cass · February 19, 2014

Yes it plays without question.

I have not messed with diff versions though

Polemicist · February 19, 2014

Bugger. So we need the holy grail of HS2.0 ... Bugger...

Dyltone · March 5, 2014

Been a couple weeks, any luck re-creating a failure we can demonstrator to Intel outside of HS?

Polemicist · March 5, 2014

Nah. Looks like the proprietary flash systems built into HS are what is at fault and therefore can only be made better with BBB intervention. Sad. I was hoping I could have an SWF wrapper or something for the video and maybe have that play in place of the video itself but I have no idea how to implement something like that into this.

bluc · March 7, 2014

I have changed my rom videos to photos how do I change my start up video to screencaps also. I mean the main menu video that loads when hyperspin first starts before you select a wheel but after intro.

Geez I wish there was a way to get video working on intel hd graphics would be heaps better with video previews.

gigapig · March 7, 2014

I have changed my rom videos to photos how do I change my start up video to screencaps also. I mean the main menu video that loads when hyperspin first starts before you select a wheel but after intro.
Geez I wish there was a way to get video working on intel hd graphics would be heaps better with video previews.

Why not use flv video snaps instead of mp4?

bluc · March 7, 2014

Didnt realise they worked thanks converting my collection now.

Polemicist · March 7, 2014

FLV and 1.2 works without issue so I have heard. I have the HS 1.2 shared in another post if ya need it. Also I believe the new HS works with FLV renamed to MP4. But don't quote me on that.

duff.the.dude · March 8, 2014

New HS works just fine with FLV as is.

bluc · March 19, 2014

New HS works just fine with FLV as is.

What "new" hyperspin? Are you using intergrated graphics hd4000 like thread tittle says? I have the latest and cant get mp4 working, I cant get flv working either for that matter.

showstopper · March 19, 2014

What "new" hyperspin? Are you using intergrated graphics hd4000 like thread tittle says? I have the latest and cant get mp4 working, I cant get flv working either for that matter.

FLV works for me - integrated HD graphics.

bluc · March 30, 2014

Then I wonder why video will not work for me strange have tried mp4 and flv no luck. The flv main menu previews play fine....

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showstopper · March 31, 2014

Then I wonder why video will not work for me strange have tried mp4 and flv no luck. The flv main menu previews play fine....
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Try the converter program from emumovies site.

That worked for me.

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