HyperMarquee

[Antos]

Also, please try HM directly within EDS (without HS) by changing your params manually and see what is gives you.

[Nocturnaloner]

Also, please try HM directly within EDS (without HS) by changing your params manually and see what is gives you.

That does work, no problem there.

 

Thank for posting some images. Like sevenseal's is saying the files may help better.

 

From what I can see, there is nothing wrong obvious with your setup.

 

Quick questions;

- Is your issue occurs on every image change?

- A:\? Is this drive is a network one? Is it quick?

- For EDS, can you click the checkbox on bottom left? (Lauch application on FE Starts)

- Do you use any transition?

Only when Hyperspin is in attract mode and spins to a random game.  When I manually navigate to a game, the window does not disappear.

A: is a quick, local hard drive, non network, and it is fast.

I'll try that checkbox.

No transitions.

 

Here is the file:

 

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>

<HyperMarqueePreferences xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema">

  <MarqueeFilename>MAME-Marquee_Artwork</MarqueeFilename>

  <WindowTop>152</WindowTop>

  <WindowLeft>1600</WindowLeft>

  <WindowHeight>720</WindowHeight>

  <WindowWidth>1280</WindowWidth>

  <WindowState>Normal</WindowState>

  <WindowTopMost>true</WindowTopMost>

  <EditMode>true</EditMode>

  <DefaultSystemPath />

  <SystemConfFile />

  <BackgroundImageFile>A:\HyperSpin\Emulators\Mame\marquees\Default.jpg</BackgroundImageFile>

  <ForegroundImageFile />

  <ForegroungBrush />

  <ThemePath>A:\HyperSpin\Media\[system]\Themes\[FileName].zip</ThemePath>

  <DefaultThemePath />

  <ThemeVideoPath>A:\HyperSpin\Media\[system]\Video\[FileName].flv</ThemeVideoPath>

  <ThemeTransitionPath>A:\HyperSpin\Media\[system]\Video\Override Transitions\[FileName].flv</ThemeTransitionPath>

  <DisplayVideoThemeFrame>false</DisplayVideoThemeFrame>

  <PlayVideoTheme>false</PlayVideoTheme>

  <PlayVideoTransitionTheme>false</PlayVideoTransitionTheme>

  <VideoVolumeTheme>0</VideoVolumeTheme>

  <VideoTransitionVolumeTheme>0</VideoTransitionVolumeTheme>

  <UseScreenCopy>false</UseScreenCopy>

  <DisplayBackgroundTheme>true</DisplayBackgroundTheme>

  <DisplayDefaultArtworkTheme>true</DisplayDefaultArtworkTheme>

  <DisplayArtwork1Theme>true</DisplayArtwork1Theme>

  <DisplayArtwork2Theme>true</DisplayArtwork2Theme>

  <DisplayArtwork3Theme>true</DisplayArtwork3Theme>

  <DisplayArtwork4Theme>true</DisplayArtwork4Theme>

  <VLCpath />

  <VideoFile />

  <VideoTransitionFile>A:\HyperSpin\Media\[system]\Video\Override Transitions\[FileName].flv</VideoTransitionFile>

  <UserShaderinsteadOfVideo>false</UserShaderinsteadOfVideo>

  <MarqueeTransparency>0</MarqueeTransparency>

  <MarqueeStyle>0</MarqueeStyle>

  <TextFont>Pump LET Plain</TextFont>

  <FontBrush><SolidColorBrush xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation">#FF000000</SolidColorBrush></FontBrush>

  <FontShaderEffect>false</FontShaderEffect>

  <TextFontSize>72</TextFontSize>

  <HorizontalAlignment>Left</HorizontalAlignment>

  <VerticalAlignment>Top</VerticalAlignment>

  <BackgroungBrush><SolidColorBrush xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation">#BE000000</SolidColorBrush></BackgroungBrush>

  <BorderBrush><SolidColorBrush xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation">#00000000</SolidColorBrush></BorderBrush>

  <HiToText />

  <BorderThikness>

    <Left>0</Left>

    <Top>0</Top>

    <Right>0</Right>

    <Bottom>0</Bottom>

  </BorderThikness>

  <AutoCloseDelay>0</AutoCloseDelay>

  <StartDelay>0</StartDelay>

  <TextOrientation>Horizontal</TextOrientation>

  <TextScrollingOrientation>0</TextScrollingOrientation>

  <TextScrollingSpeed>0</TextScrollingSpeed>

  <DisplayUnderFont>false</DisplayUnderFont>

  <DisplayScoreHeader2>true</DisplayScoreHeader2>

  <CloseAfterScrollingCompleted>false</CloseAfterScrollingCompleted>

  <TextEffect>2</TextEffect>

  <GifRepeatBehavior>0</GifRepeatBehavior>

  <TransitionEffect>0</TransitionEffect>

  <FontOutlineThickness>2</FontOutlineThickness>

  <FontOutlinedBrush><SolidColorBrush xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation">#FF000000</SolidColorBrush></FontOutlinedBrush>

  <ImageStretch>Fill</ImageStretch>

  <ForegroundImageStretch>Fill</ForegroundImageStretch>

  <BackgroundImageStretch>Fill</BackgroundImageStretch>

  <VideoStretch>None</VideoStretch>

  <VideoTransitionStretch>None</VideoTransitionStretch>

  <MarqueeSystem>MAME</MarqueeSystem>

  <TextInfoFolder />

  <HiFolder />

  <NvramFolder />

  <HighSocreTitleHeader1 />

  <HighScoreTitleHeaderPadding />

  <SnapToGrid>false</SnapToGrid>

  <HTImageBypass>false</HTImageBypass>

  <HTImageHeightBypass>180</HTImageHeightBypass>

  <DigitalTextClosing>0</DigitalTextClosing>

  <ArtworkPathLocation>A:\HyperSpin\Emulators\Mame\marquees\[Filename].png</ArtworkPathLocation>

  <Artwork1AlternativeLocation>A:\HyperSpin\Emulators\Mame\flyers\[Filename].png</Artwork1AlternativeLocation>

  <Artwork2AlternativeLocation>A:\HyperSpin\Emulators\Mame\marquees\Default.jpg</Artwork2AlternativeLocation>

  <Artwork3AlternativeLocation />

  <Artwork4AlternativeLocation />

  <ArtworkEffectShader />

  <VideoArtworkVolume>0</VideoArtworkVolume>

  <GameInfoLocation>A:\HyperSpin\Data\Game Info\[system].ini</GameInfoLocation>

  <HyperListLocation>A:\HyperSpin\Data\HyperList\[system].xml</HyperListLocation>

  <GameInfoText />

  <HyperlistRegex>(\[.*\])|(".*")|('.*')|(\(.*\))</HyperlistRegex>

  <HyperlistRegexCheckbox>true</HyperlistRegexCheckbox>

  <DigitalTextSourceOption>0</DigitalTextSourceOption>

  <DigitalTextScrollingOption>0</DigitalTextScrollingOption>

  <DigitalTextPauseScrolling>-1</DigitalTextPauseScrolling>

  <FlashDurationOnPause>0</FlashDurationOnPause>

  <IsSplitLines>false</IsSplitLines>

  <ScreenCopyWindowTop>0</ScreenCopyWindowTop>

  <ScreenCopyWindowLeft>0</ScreenCopyWindowLeft>

  <ScreenCopyWindowHeight>0</ScreenCopyWindowHeight>

  <ScreenCopyWindowWidth>0</ScreenCopyWindowWidth>

  <ScreenCopyWindowRefreshRate>0</ScreenCopyWindowRefreshRate>

  <ScreenCopyStretch>None</ScreenCopyStretch>

  <MarqueeSpeak>false</MarqueeSpeak>

  <SpeakRegEx />

  <SpeakRegExReplacement />

  <TransitionOption>0</TransitionOption>

  <ArtworkShader>0</ArtworkShader>

  <TransitionShaderName>Transition_RippleEffect</TransitionShaderName>

  <TransitionShader><Transition_RippleEffect Progress="0" xmlns="clr-namespace:Shaders;assembly=Shaders" xmlns:av="http://schemas.microsoft.com/winfx/2006/xaml/presentation"><Transition_RippleEffect.Texture2><av:ImageBrush ImageSource="pack://application:,,,/Icons/EDS.ico" /></Transition_RippleEffect.Texture2></Transition_RippleEffect></TransitionShader>

  <ForegroungShader />

  <BackgroungShader />

  <SuperShader />

  <TransitionShaderDuration>1000</TransitionShaderDuration>

  <NamedPipeID>MAME-Marquee_Artwork</NamedPipeID>

  <AutoCloseEventList>2, 4, 6, 11</AutoCloseEventList>

  <ArtworkCycling>false</ArtworkCycling>

  <ArtworkCyclingInterval>5</ArtworkCyclingInterval>

</HyperMarqueePreferences>

[Nocturnaloner]

- For EDS, can you click the checkbox on bottom left? (Lauch application on FE Starts)

 

This is progress.  The window doesn't disappear.  Instead it shows the 'Background' image from the Global tab, waits 2 seconds, then loads the Artwork image.  The HM window is no longer being hidden during automatic spin.

 

Crap.  Sorry guys.  I accidentally had a second HM window open during that test, so I was seeing the second window when the first one disappeared.  The problem still persists.  The HM window is disappearing during hyperspins.

[mccorkled]

For code, use the code <> tags, not a quote.

[Nocturnaloner]

For code, use the code <> tags, not a quote.

Thanks.  You were having a similar issue.  Did you get it resolved?

[mccorkled]

My issue was it was not staying on my second monitor. I opened HM by itself and then moved it to the 2nd monitor and resized it manually. Then clicked exit and it saved the settings. I was using EDS to test open it prior and it was not saving the settings.

[Antos]

Please confirm;

 

- Only when Hyperspin is in attract mode and spins to a random game. is this correct?

- No problem with HM when you are passing params directly within EDS F.E.? 

 

If the answer to both questions is yes, then the issue belongs to Hyperspin.

 

Let us know. 

[Nocturnaloner]

Please confirm;

 

- Only when Hyperspin is in attract mode and spins to a random game. is this correct?

- No problem with HM when you are passing params directly within EDS F.E.? 

 

If the answer to both questions is yes, then the issue belongs to Hyperspin.

 

Let us know. 

It may very well belong to Hyperspin.  I do notice however that the different communication methods behave differently in this situation.  Pipe causes the window to disappear for 2 seconds.  CLI is much faster, but the window does not disappear and sometimes a random previous marquee is shown during spins, which is better than the disappearing window.  I thought that the Default.png took care of it, but forgot that I had changed communication methods.  It's not perfect, but I'll stick with CLI.

[mccorkled]

It may very well belong to Hyperspin.  I do notice however that the different communication methods behave differently in this situation.  Pipe causes the window to disappear for 2 seconds.  CLI is much faster, but the window does not disappear and sometimes a random previous marquee is shown during spins, which is better than the disappearing window.  I thought that the Default.png took care of it, but forgot that I had changed communication methods.  It's not perfect, but I'll stick with CLI.

 

Maybe it would be good if the system image would show while the spin takes place. That way it is not showing a blank screen and not showing the wrong game.

[Antos]

Hey, If you don't want your window to close, (PIPE), do not ask for it. Put in your close filter 2 only (F.E. close). Same for your open filter, if you only want to react on game launch event, put 9 in your event filter only.  

As of now, your filters are really messy..

[Nocturnaloner]

Hey, If you don't want your window to close, (PIPE), do not ask for it. Put in your close filter 2 only (F.E. close). Same for your open filter, if you only want to react on game launch event, put 9 in your event filter only.  

As of now, your filters are really messy..

Antos, first and most important, thank you very much!  Changing my event filter to 9 only, and my close filter to 2 only did solve the problem.  Now, Pipe is indeed faster than CLI, and the Default/background image is visible for .5 second while switching marquees in Hyperspin mode, and the window never disappears.  Thank you again for the great program.  If I may make one small suggestion that might cut down on support posts, it's that you make the 9 and 2 configuration pre-entered with the Mame-Marquee_Artwork parameter.  Keep in mind that I did not enter 1,3,9 - 2,4,6,11 for my filters, you or your assistants did, and not knowing any better, I assumed they were necessary.  Respectfully, defining your parameters in the manual is not at all the same thing as giving good, clear instructions on how to make the program work.

[Antos]

Very glad that it's working for you now. I am not really good when doing user support I guess (nothing personal ), that's one of the reasons why sevenseal is there. Usually I prefer spending my time on app development. The next app will be Fusion Display and will be available in a year. If you like HM, I think you will love FD for its vast possibilities.

[mccorkled]

Very glad that it's working for you now. I am not really good when doing user support I guess (nothing personal ), that's one of the reasons why sevenseal is there. Usually I prefer spending my time on app development. The next app will be Fusion Display and will be available in a year. If you like HM, I think you will love FD for its vast possibilities.

 

The new HS will be out in a year. It will be interesting to see what features it includes.

[Antos]

The new HS will be out in a year. It will be interesting to see what features it includes.

Do you have any information on the new HS? Anyone?

[mccorkled]

Just that it will be coming out in late 2016

[trizzev]

I'm having an issue with small HM windows where the resize grip is always visible at the bottom right of the windows. I have these windows set to not launch in edit mode, and it doesn't happen with larger windows. Has anyone else experienced this?

[sevenseal]

I'm having an issue with small HM windows where the resize grip is always visible at the bottom right of the windows. I have these windows set to not launch in edit mode, and it doesn't happen with larger windows. Has anyone else experienced this?

when you see this, often it is relating, that you another focus layer ontop or below the window... which make that appear.. i would suggest set always on top opinion and see if that changes that

[shitoken]

Hi friends

 

My new arcade machine I have fixed the top wide screen for Hyper marque.

Now I have question before I go to purchase the parts for new computer.

Do I need to purchase 2 GPU cards for my mobo or one will get the job done? example Nvidia Geforce 750 to 980TI?

[Antos]

Hi friends

 

My new arcade machine I have fixed the top wide screen for Hyper marque.

Now I have question before I go to purchase the parts for new computer.

Do I need to purchase 2 GPU cards for my mobo or one will get the job done? example Nvidia Geforce 750 to 980TI?

 

One is very good. Understanding that your extra display is not demanding on GPU but more in raster graphics (GPU is for vectors and 3D). I would recommend 8 gig of ram as a minimum though.

Good luck, post some images here!!

 

Side note: My main development PC crashed last week-end. I can't fix it back to work. Even a 3 weeks old new Hard Drive failed. I lost 3 weeks of coding and have to use a old back up. Needless to say that I can't much provide user support / testing / trouble shooting lately. Please do not hesitate to work with Sevenseal (team member) for support.

 

Happy Easter!

[sevenseal]

Hi friends

My new arcade machine I have fixed the top wide screen for Hyper marque.

Now I have question before I go to purchase the parts for new computer.

Do I need to purchase 2 GPU cards for my mobo or one will get the job done? example Nvidia Geforce 750 to 980TI?

if you need any further help just let me know.

antos answered your question at the above post

[shitoken]

One is very good. Understanding that your extra display is not demanding on GPU but more in raster graphics (GPU is for vectors and 3D). I would recommend 8 gig of ram as a minimum though.

Good luck, post some images here!!

Side note: My main development PC crashed last week-end. I can't fix it back to work. Even a 3 weeks old new Hard Drive failed. I lost 3 weeks of coding and have to use a old back up. Needless to say that I can't much provide user support / testing / trouble shooting lately. Please do not hesitate to work with Sevenseal (team member) for support.

Happy Easter!

Sorry about your PC buddy , I believe nothing can stop you too. Thanks to sevenseal as well.

I will start to purchase my comp parts by next week and later will need more support if I cannot get the marquee up.

One short question:

If one GPU is enough that means HDMI will goes to main screen and DVI cable will goes to the marquee screen am I right?

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[sevenseal]

Sorry about your PC buddy , I believe nothing can stop you too. Thanks to sevenseal as well.

I will start to purchase my comp parts by next week and later will need more support if I cannot get the marquee up.

One short question:

If one GPU is enough that means HDMI will goes to main screen and DVI cable will goes to the marquee screen am I right?

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any combination, as long as your pc register both/more, HM will work on any of those screens

[xzotic]

That's the way to go. I noticed that this is happening when there is a crash of the OS, power failure, system reboot or other failure during EDS transactions. This is out of my control I guess. For now, you have the right approach, simply backup your EDS settings will save you pain. Keep me posted if you have any findings on this.

 

Thanks guys. 

Just to let you know Antos I also experience random loss of settings and have to restore from a backup copy each time. This doesn't appear to happen during anything in particular. ie: no obvious crash etc. Just sometimes I'll start the mame machine and no HM's will load. Even after a close and restart it is still the same. I copy across my backup of the EDS directory and it's all good again until the next time.

 

Also, still can't get Free Text HM to work loading my own text file. Just crashes to desktop. Checked permissions etc as per sevenseal suggestion and I'm running on an admin account with all files forced to administrator in properties (also I'm on Windows 10) .  Can you confirm you can load a specific text file yourself without crashing? My Text has one line of text (about 5 words). Thanks.

 

Finally latest 0.411 version seems to have a problem when you tick edit mode off. Makes the HQ file unloadable next time you try and load it. Have to recreate a new HM and just keep the edit mode ticked on for now. No problems with previous version so should be easy for you to recreate the issue. 

 

ps: While I remember I notice that if you are testing your HM's through EDS (ie: loading them up via Eventintegrator), if you make changes to any HM and then choose the "Close all" in EDS then this will kill all HM's but they won't save any changes you may have made to them. You probably can't do much about this unless EDS can close HM's like HM would if you chose to quit each instance (and therefore force a save). It's not a biggie but can catch out new players...Cheers.

[sevenseal]

Just to let you know Antos I also experience random loss of settings and have to restore from a backup copy each time. This doesn't appear to happen during anything in particular. ie: no obvious crash etc. Just sometimes I'll start the mame machine and no HM's will load. Even after a close and restart it is still the same. I copy across my backup of the EDS directory and it's all good again until the next time.

 

Also, still can't get Free Text HM to work loading my own text file. Just crashes to desktop. Checked permissions etc as per sevenseal suggestion and I'm running on an admin account with all files forced to administrator in properties (also I'm on Windows 10) .  Can you confirm you can load a specific text file yourself without crashing? My Text has one line of text (about 5 words). Thanks.

 

Finally latest 0.411 version seems to have a problem when you tick edit mode off. Makes the HQ file unloadable next time you try and load it. Have to recreate a new HM and just keep the edit mode ticked on for now. No problems with previous version so should be easy for you to recreate the issue. 

 

ps: While I remember I notice that if you are testing your HM's through EDS (ie: loading them up via Eventintegrator), if you make changes to any HM and then choose the "Close all" in EDS then this will kill all HM's but they won't save any changes you may have made to them. You probably can't do much about this unless EDS can close HM's like HM would if you chose to quit each instance (and therefore force a save). It's not a biggie but can catch out new players...Cheers.

 

since this is a testing period and not official release...

you can expect hicups often.

during this time of using these project you are warned to always to use clean setup...

due to the nature... backwards compatibility is not guarantee. if you don't then use at your own risk

from going from 0.4.10 to 0.4.11 is required to use fresh... much related text features are can not be transfer over when upgrade.

it is best to start clean.

 

you will notice the crashing doesn't occur when using a fresh setup.

 

eds uses a force close kinda of a method....

so referring to use EDS closing HM to save setting for you. that is something that will not be done

if you makes changes on HM.... it was suggested to close HM to save setting by exiting the program manually by menu selection

 

 

i do want to note that when using wildcards.... they are case sensitive.... so often try all lowercase

[Antos]

Just to let you know Antos I also experience random loss of settings and have to restore from a backup copy each time. This doesn't appear to happen during anything in particular. ie: no obvious crash etc. Just sometimes I'll start the mame machine and no HM's will load. Even after a close and restart it is still the same. I copy across my backup of the EDS directory and it's all good again until the next time.

 

Also, still can't get Free Text HM to work loading my own text file. Just crashes to desktop. Checked permissions etc as per sevenseal suggestion and I'm running on an admin account with all files forced to administrator in properties (also I'm on Windows 10) .  Can you confirm you can load a specific text file yourself without crashing? My Text has one line of text (about 5 words). Thanks.

 

Finally latest 0.411 version seems to have a problem when you tick edit mode off. Makes the HQ file unloadable next time you try and load it. Have to recreate a new HM and just keep the edit mode ticked on for now. No problems with previous version so should be easy for you to recreate the issue. 

 

ps: While I remember I notice that if you are testing your HM's through EDS (ie: loading them up via Eventintegrator), if you make changes to any HM and then choose the "Close all" in EDS then this will kill all HM's but they won't save any changes you may have made to them. You probably can't do much about this unless EDS can close HM's like HM would if you chose to quit each instance (and therefore force a save). It's not a biggie but can catch out new players...Cheers.

 

Thanks to take the time to report bugs. Not many people makes the effort. This is the only way to bring HM to initial release.

 

1. Are-you experiencing random setting lost only with EDS, HM or both? (Which version of EDS are-you using?)

2. Free text, ok I will make some test, I haven't used this feature since 1 year. Send me your file that make crash HM, and will fix it.

3. EDS close all; You are right, close all is a rude application shut down by nature (same approach then RocketLaunch close). Users shouldn't use EDS in conjunction with HM when configuration HM.  

4. tick edit mode off: Sevenseal has a point; Previous HM versions config is not recommended. Make sure that you have created your config from fresh new version to avoid any doubts. Give it a try and please let me know if you are still experiencing this issue. If it stil does, I will fix the problem.

 

Cheers,