Game console Vs. Gaming pc

[Oldgamer51]

I was wondering If game consoles such as xbox and playstation are not very expensive compared to like a 3,000 dollar gaming pc from alienware and that might only be base price and not adding the build your own features.  Why bother buy a gaming pc in the first place.  If I read or understood somewhere that both and xbox and playstation 4 and I think 3 has some limited internet capabilities so to me it almost seems the right price it to just go console.  but then again we woulnt have this forum like Hyperspin to help us with our emu and iso needsand I even understand steam is trying to get into the playstation game business.  but again pc vs. console weigh in please.

[THK]

Reasons to join the PC gaming master race:

*actual games @1080p & above instead of 1080p non-upscaled if you're lucky

*no horrid 30fps gaming

*games look waaaaaaay better if you have a decent pc, even half arsed console ports

*for foregoing a few console exclusives you get way more games to play

*m&k gaming already alongside your console controller or any other controller of choice

*better choice of peripherals like steering wheel , joystick setups etc.

*better for VR

*games are a lot cheaper often. Depending on how many (new) games you buy and the cost of your pc you can actually spend less by buying a pc

*can run demanding emulators/systems

*both monitor & couch gaming possible

*no monthly subscription cost for online gaming

*steam

*can be used for other things than being a gaming machine

[THK]

PC gaming is like a good meal at a good restaurant, Console gaming is like a cheeseburger at McD

[THK]

XBone & PS4 are technically like 4 year old mid-range pc's, but perform a bit better due to not running an OS and having the games optimized for that one system that is the same across the board.

For instance the game I most regularly play: War Thunder

PS4

*25-30fps

*1080p

*graphics look mediocre at best

My PC

*1440p

*All graphical effects to max (movie)

*looks stunning

*80-120fps (200+ when I go crossfire)

[Styphelus]

$3000 on a gaming PC? Are you mad? I built my gaming PC for $1500 and that includes a 27" monitor. It's a beast and runs GTA V and Witcher 3 on max settings. A PS4 is cheaper in the beginning but in the end, you end up spending more. 

 

A PC is not only used for gaming. You can use it for way more than that. I use it as a media centre as well, surf the net, graphic design, e-mail and work. PS4 can't do that. How do you do that with a console? You still need to buy a PC or a tablet.

 

PS4 games are expensive. If you wait for a Steam sale, you can get tons of PC games for cheap. That alone will offsets the initial cost of a gaming PC. In the long run, you end up spending more on a console than on a gaming PC once you include the price of games, extra controllers, PS4 network subscription, extra hard drives and so on.

[JoyStickKilla]

Way easier to watch porn on a pc

[rastan]

I don't think it's fair to even compare them to be honest... I think you can build a solid PC gaming machine that will knock out any console but when you consider consoles that are specifically made for dedicated gaming... the consoles will always have a special place for people that appreciate them.. I mean for every good thing you can say about PC gaming.... when it comes down to just pushing that power button on a console and your games are loading up VS your PC better be in good shape and up to date.... you can't knock the consoles.

 

But obviously if we're just looking on paper at specs... the PC will always be more powerful.. I mean hell you could run a Dolphin on a kick ass PC and it will be better than an actual Wii but again on the Wii you just have to push that power button LOL.

[dark13]

Consoles in the 90's: put cart/cd in the console, turn the console on, play.

Consoles now: put BD in the console, connect the console to internet, update the console's firmware, install the game, buy the dlc, play.

 

A console right now is too similar to a pc, actually ps4 and xbox1 ARE pc (amd APUs). A pc still costs more but it's no more 299 vs 4k. 1600$ is enough for an hi-end pc (6600k, gtx980), if you want a system on par with a console you'll end in the 600$-700$ range. Anyway during the "generation" you'll recover the price difference while buying games as they are cheaper on pc...

[Avar]

Yeh you can spend as much on a PC and still get an overall better experience, or you can go as balls out as you want and turn your tv into a window into a holodeck.

[KlopjerO]

Unless you have a small kids and a wife.. you'd best join the master race.

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[damageinc86]

I used to argue for that pop-in the game and push power to justify buying a console,...but like stated previously, it is becoming a pain due to the fact that they never actually release a FINISHED F*CKING GAME anymore on a disc!  It's getting so damn old to pop-in the disc and have to sit there and literally download gigs and gigs of data to a mother effing hard drive inside the console.  hard drive,...console in the same sentence.  Yes.  It's is that weird.  I wouldn't even call it a console anymore, because they really are just a P.C.  Why not just plug a P.C. into the Television via hdmi now?

 

I do still like the online aspect of consoles, and easy way to connect to friends.  I wish there was a standardized way to have that on the P.C.  No not steam, because i actually avoid steam if I can help it.  I prefer to own my copies of the games I purchase.  There's too many different way to do multi-player on a P.C. that it is easy to get lost, so that's probably one strong reason a lot of people stick to consoles.  Hard thing with people who aren't savvy is they can ruin shit on a computer fast just by pressing a bunch of wrong keys lol.

 

Still,  I'd say P.C. because the specs are still better, and with how much they can do outside of just gaming.  If we've come to a time where consoles are basically P.C.s anyways, then it is best to just go ahead and get a P.C.

[Oldgamer51]

Well i dont think i wont be able to join the pc master race til i at least have enough ram to play my copy of witcher 3 or a pc that can run a ps2 emu decently.  I thought once upon a time i was doing big things when i bought and installed a high end graphic card into my low end pc and i stole the ram from my vista and put it in my low end so it went from 4 gbs to 5.50...lol.  and when i took the external hardrive from its case and put it in my low end because the hardrives usb plug gave out.  so my low end has two 500 gb hardrive i thought i was the poop...lol.

[THK]

I always build my own pc

 

Always went for an upgrade in ram so adding the old stuff wasn't needed/possible.

 

Also always used my old hdd's in my new rig and added new ones when I needed space and replace the smallest with the new one when all sata connections were taken.

Currently have a 1TB SSD along with 7 hdd's

2x 4TB
1x 2TB
2x 1.5 TB
2x 1TB

So you see the progression. Always bought cheap external cases for the ones that I had left and gave them away to family as external backup hdd's

 

I was thinking of maybe adding another 4TB drive and maybe get a PCI-E sata controller. I have space for two more drives in my case, just not the sata connection (have a optical drive -god knows why- but it has never been hooked up, use an external I bought for a laptop if reaaaly needed)

[Avar]

If you go full on beast mode with a gaming PC it holds its value pretty damn well and you can enter an effective long-term sale/renewal cycle, it's just the initial hit that hurts the most. I like the peace of mind that comes with knowing that if a game is sluggish, it's definitively an issue with the game's optimization or with the drivers.

 

 

I was thinking of maybe adding another 4TB drive and maybe get a PCI-E sata controller. I have space for two more drives in my case, just not the sata connection (have a optical drive -god knows why- but it has never been hooked up, use an external I bought for a laptop if reaaaly needed)

 

 

I use these. I find them effective and much cheaper than a server.

[Metalzoic]

For actual gaming I'd say consoles all the way. For my arcade machine I put in an up to date gaming PC because that is what it needs to be able to run old arcade games plus the latest PC releases I want on it (like MKX or Killer Instinct etc...).

But overall I would never choose normal PC gaming over console gaming.

[THK]

But overall I would never choose normal PC gaming over console gaming.

 

Any reasons why? Because the console experience can easily be had with a htpc or similar somewhere next to you're tv (even desktop in another room via chromecast or something else can be done)

Couple of wireless controllers, etc. You could even use SteamOS if you never want to see windows, or launch stuff via Kodi.

 

 

In the end I only see 4 real reasons to choose a console:

 

1) You're friend all have it and you want to play online with them on the same system

2) You horrible with computers and scared to touch one, let alone set stuff up or build one

3) Cheaper (to start off with and be on the same level of performance, after that you'd have to buy a little older titles when the price drops as pc games are generally cheaper, because they start off losing money on the console and make it back with Games prices/Online services/Peripherals)

4) Console exclusives (pretty weak argument imo)

 

Not that I have anything against console peasants xD

[wesfranks]

Every cycle when the issue comes back up I think consoles are the way to go. Then I remember getting burned every time with consoles and backwards compatibility. When I do a new PC build, I can just load up all my old games, with a couple of exceptions and play. My Steam library will probably be good, but what do I do with those XBox360 discs when my console dies?

Still hoping to get SW-Rogue Squadron PC to work someday.

[dark13]

Any reasons why? Because the console experience can easily be had with a htpc or similar somewhere next to you're tv (even desktop in another room via chromecast or something else can be done)

Couple of wireless controllers, etc. You could even use SteamOS if you never want to see windows, or launch stuff via Kodi.

 

 

In the end I only see 4 real reasons to choose a console:

 

4) Console exclusives (pretty weak argument imo)

 

It was a HUGE reason to choose a console back in the days but right now the only BIG exclusives that comes to my mind from this and previous generation are GT, forza motosport, bloodborne, the last of us. Admittely there are some good games released as digital download but lots of good titles were not imported in the western market (mainly JAP shmups). WiiU is another story... it's all about nintendo exclusives BUT, again, there are not so many.

Moreover some years ago many pc conversions were a freaking mess (just check out RE4), now a "porting disaster" can be something like dark souls, and it's a "disaster" only because it has exactly the same problems of the consoles' version (DSfix FTW).

[Avar]

Yeh and with the current state of emulation developments, exclusive just means "meh, I'll play it in a few years on PC with upscaled graphics" or in the case of Nintendo, since they only seem to know how to use hardware from one or two generations ago, "I'll play it in a week with upscaled graphics."

 

 

Still hoping to get SW-Rogue Squadron PC to work someday.

 

Someday In the meantime at least we've got Tie Fighter and X-Wing!

[Oldgamer51]

I read that Sony is going 4K with its playstation promising an in upgraded GPU and more general processing power and a VR headset.  Its going to be dubbed the playstation 4.5. http://www.inquisitr.com/2901483/upgraded-playstation-4-rumored-to-be-a-4k-gaming-console/

[THK]

And the VR googles are gonna cost $400+ add some other needed upgrades (peripherals) $200+ and you'll have the cheapest VR gaming set, but the crappiest (well not counting the phone & carton box thingies), but it's a start.

What might be a slight problem is that the console VR experience brings one into the PC gamer hardware spending range.

 

PC will be more expensive, assuming one only has to upgrade the GPU, $800+ for the VR set, another $600+ on the GPU

[Avar]

I'm really no more enthused about new VR than I was about the Virtual Boy. I mean... it's fine and it's obviously way better now... but to me it's still a gimmick that removes me from the experience by strapping goggles to my face. Kinda kills the immersion when I'm supposed to be in a virtual world but the field of view isn't right and you're wearing a headset as your eyes strain. A large, professionally calibrated screen or projector with good black levels and a half-decent surround sound setup will always be more immersive and realistic until we have real life holodecks.

 

As for the 4K PS4 thing, I can't see that being anything but a gimmick unless they majorly downgrade the overall aesthetic of games.

[THK]

I'm really no more enthused about new VR than I was about the Virtual Boy. I mean... it's fine and it's obviously way better now... but to me it's still a gimmick that removes me from the experience by strapping goggles to my face. Kinda kills the immersion when I'm supposed to be in a virtual world but the field of view isn't right and you're wearing a headset as your eyes strain. 

 

Very much dependent on what you use it for. I mean for racing, flight & other simulator (& cockpit) games this would actually give great immersion. As far as it goes for average gaming it is indeed more or less a gimmick. But just look at what head tracking does for laying flight sims, VR would be awesome!

 

A large, professionally calibrated screen or projector with good black levels and a half-decent surround sound setup will always be more immersive and realistic until we have real life holodecks.

 

 

I concur a good screen helps a lot, but I don't really agree on this. 

 

My calibrated 27" 1440p IPS screen is nice though, no need to go 4K until I have hardware that can handle 4K gaming and 32"+ 4K IPS/OLED monitors become affordable. 

[KlopjerO]

Augmented reality has the future

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[dark13]

Augmented reality has the future

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It should be "has augmented reality a future?"

I mean, AR is no more the "future", it should be already here BUT besides some limited applications (QR codes, for example) it still doesn't have a mainstream use.

As I said VR failed back in the 90's, now lots of producers are trying it again but the problems are always the same: alienation from what's surrounding you, heavy and/or uncomfortable headgear, low res screen and framerate issues.

I think the idea behind VR and AR is really good BUT the technology is still too clumsy...