Need help to setup Xpadder on HS

[MagicalFrank]

It's me again. Since I was unable to make working the Xbox360 controller to control HS frontend I've decided to use Xpadder. I've tried to follow some tutorials, but I didn't manage to use xpadder on HS properly. 

Xpadder works when I launch HS, but after selecting any game and returning back to HS stops working. What am I doing wrong???

Also it seems like Xpadder interferes when you use emulators. So if B has been set to enter HS menu by mapping letter V when you press B on RA you're actually also pressing the letter V in RA. Is there a way to avoid this or the only solution is to use a smart mapping for HS menus?

Also, is there a way to assign a button combination to exit an emulator by using xpadder? It doesn't seem that intuitive...

 

Please guys I really need your help before I begin to freak out... any good written tutorial or any suggestion would be really precious to me!

[gigapig]

First off I would use JoyToKey as I never really got on with xpadder and there is a very good easy to follow guide in our tuts section.

Exit emulator keys should be set up in RLUI and not xpadder. 

You should only use a keymapper as a last resort as most controls can be set in the emulator. If you do set them in the emulator then you also need to create a blank profile for that system in the keymapper section of RLUI. If you don't then your Hyperspin profile can interfere with your emulator controls.

I have keys set in JoyToKey for systems like Commodore64, Amiga but not for the likes of Genesis and other consoles, they just have a blank profile and the joystick\gamepad set up in the emu (RetroArch.)

[MagicalFrank]

Wow...so currently there's no native support in HS for controllers (they may work, but for most of the people they just don't). Startup script isn't working and/or it has weird issues(lag, minimized emulators...). Now you're suggesting me to change the keymapper 'cause even that it may not work. I have no choice, but to give it a try to joy2key. I'll let you know if this method worked for me...thanks for the suggestion!

However - I hope not to sound rude- It's quite shocking and deceiving that a popular FE doesn't have a really basic future such as controller support in its menus...it's like...seriously?

[gigapig]

8 hours ago, MagicalFrank said:

Wow...so currently there's no native support in HS for controllers (they may work, but for most of the people they just don't). Startup script isn't working and/or it has weird issues(lag, minimized emulators...). Now you're suggesting me to change the keymapper 'cause even that it may not work. I have no choice, but to give it a try to joy2key. I'll let you know if this method worked for me...thanks for the suggestion!

However - I hope not to sound rude- It's quite shocking and deceiving that a popular FE doesn't have a really basic future such as controller support in its menus...it's like...seriously?

You can of course use xpadder and it should work fine. 

As for Hyperspin, it was made quite sometime ago now and made for cabinets with a keyboard encoder. 

Now there has been a gamepad fix with version  1.4 of Hyperspin which makes navigation more stable but it's not perfect.

Let me know how you get on with JoyToKey.

[Metalzoic]

Like Giga said HS was made for an arcade-like experience, not a console controller setup.

[MagicalFrank]

Nice to know it, but that doesn't help... also I guess that many people just use FEs on their pcs and TVs. 

@gigapig

I've tried to follow the tutorial, but still I run into the same issue. Controller wont work when you get back to HS. Also wheels spin like crazy when you move them with the analog stick(i didnt have that issue with xpadder). I'll post some screenshots of my RL an HS configurations later. I guess that's the only way we can figure out what I'm missing or doing wrong... thanks for your support.

 

 

[Aorin]

Funny I use HS on a PC, using a 40" TV, it looks and works great with a PS3 gamepad, fortunately it works like a charm using Startup script, and by counting the thousands of downloads this script has and people commenting on its main thread, I can tell that Hyperspin is not only far arcades, it just needs some updates to support gamepads natively, that's a must for any frontend today.

[Metalzoic]

5 hours ago, Aorin said:

Funny I use HS on a PC, using a 40" TV, it looks and works great with a PS3 gamepad, fortunately it works like a charm using Startup script, and by counting the thousands of downloads this script has and people commenting on its main thread, I can tell that Hyperspin is not only far arcades, it just needs some updates to support gamepads natively, that's a must for any frontend today.

I bet most people don't use it on a cab (I wonder how many of us actually built them?), but like you said it's easy to set it up for controllers or joysticks.

@MagicalFrank you can simply follow the guide Giga linked for you from the tutorial section here. Or startup script etc...

[Aorin]

1 minute ago, Metalzoic said:

I bet most people don't use it on a cab (I wonder how many of us actually built them?), but like you said it's easy to set it up for controllers or joysticks.

@MagicalFrank you can simply follow the guide Giga linked for you from the tutorial section here. Or startup script etc...

I want a cab :>[

A friend of mine is actually facing this problem as well, he paid for a custom cab and now the controls are being a hassle, I even posted a thread 2 days ago so I may be able to help him:

Script works fine with the real xbox gamepads, but as soon as the arcade sticks (based on xbox gamepads boards) are plugged, it turns into a problem.

[Metalzoic]

3 minutes ago, Aorin said:

I want a cab :>[

A friend of mine is actually facing this problem as well, he paid for a custom cab and now the controls are being a hassle, I even posted a thread 2 days ago so I may be able to help him:

Script works fine with the real xbox gamepads, but as soon as the arcade sticks (based on xbox gamepads boards) are plugged, it turns into a problem.

Wish i knew man. I use an encoder so can't help you there.

[MagicalFrank]

I gave it another try and now...it's finally working!!! I even fixed that weird spinning when using the analog stick...it was just needed to set the treshold on joytokey.

Only issue left is that even if I set the controls for one emulator (not a system) such as retroarch that settings are only being saved for the one system I set up. I imagined that if I save the mapping for a global emulator then are being used for all of its system, but it doesn't seem to true. Do I still need to just configure all of my systems even though run on the same emulator?

[Aorin]

7 minutes ago, MagicalFrank said:

I gave it another try and now...it's finally working!!! I even fixed that weird spinning when using the analog stick...it was just needed to set the treshold on joytokey.

Only issue left is that even if I set the controls for one emulator (not a system) such as retroarch that settings are only being saved for the one system I set up. I imagined that if I save the mapping for a global emulator then are being used for all of its system, but it doesn't seem to true. Do I still need to just configure all of my systems even though run on the same emulator?

I'm confused, if you create, for example, a blank profile in Joy2Key for Sega Master System (assuming it's emulated via Retroarch or another emulator), won't J2K load the blank profile, thus, not affecting the emulator controls?

Did you manage to make Hyperspin profile to reload when you exit the emulator, enabling you to control it without problems?

[demonseed]

I am so frustrated with xpadder too. I am not understanding at all how to load emulator specific profiles.. Every time I try and it goes back to HS, my controller stops working.  It is like it does not switch profiles.  Is there a guide out there to help me understand how this works?..

Under GLOBAL.. I have under keymapper, a rocketlauncher, rocketlauncherUI, Blank and_Default listed.... then under the section below that is Rocketlauncher and _Default...  I do not understand what those all are and how it works?  I do not want to mess things up.... but some emulators I added to HS need to have their own profile and I have no idea.. how to do it...  I am going to throw this thing soon.. When I reboot my pc hs loads up and xpadder works...

If I exit HS and run HS again xpadder is not working. I hate this... so frustrating.

[diskmach]

Every time I see these threads about controller problems, I feel I have to mention my alternative setup. I never got JoyToKey, Xpadder or startup script to work properly,

although I spent a lot of time on it. With Padstarr I have 83 systems set up with no controller problems.

 

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forums/topic/14216-setup-xbox-360-controller-with-padstarr-for-all-of-hyperspin/

 

[MagicalFrank]

Guys I'll post some screenshots of my current settings later. Hoping that could help you somehow. I know HOW frustrating things can be when you're trying to setup a stupid controller... 

@diskmach

Arigatou for you alternative solution although seems quite similar to xpadder or joytokey walkaround.

[demonseed]

Hey

i got my default profile to load every time now however is can't figure out how to load a profile for a particular system 

jr

[diskmach]

4 hours ago, MagicalFrank said:

Arigatou for you alternative solution although seems quite similar to xpadder or joytokey walkaround.

For me it seems better than a "walkaround" as it was the working solution for me. And Padstarr is actually the most advanced keymapper

available, as far as I know. If you can live with the $ 5.99 price tag...I also provide some profiles and some explanations on how to set it up

in that thread, so should'nt be too difficult, either.

[gigapig]

1 hour ago, demonseed said:

Hey

i got my default profile to load every time now however is can't figure out how to load a profile for a particular system 

jr

You select your system on the left pane, hit the Keymapper tab.

Click the drop down next to the green + and choose "system"

JoyToKey should then pop up so you then set you keys, make sure you go to Preferences and check the minimise box and then save it. Done.

Really most controls should be set in the emulator depending on your set up. Most of the console systems I have just have blank profiles. 

[Aorin]

5 hours ago, gigapig said:

You select your system on the left pane, hit the Keymapper tab.

Click the drop down next to the green + and choose "system"

JoyToKey should then pop up so you then set you keys, make sure you go to Preferences and check the minimise box and then save it. Done.

Really most controls should be set in the emulator depending on your set up. Most of the console systems I have just have blank profiles. 

Does the Hyperspin profile reload when you exit a game?

A friend of mine is having troubles setting up his controls.

[gigapig]

1 hour ago, Aorin said:

Does the Hyperspin profile reload when you exit a game?

A friend of mine is having troubles setting up his controls.

Yes Rocketlauncher should reload it on exit if a frontend profile has been created.

[Aorin]

2 hours ago, gigapig said:

Yes Rocketlauncher should reload it on exit if a frontend profile has been created.

OK, I'll help him with it later, I hope we can solve it. Thanks.

[Spawk]

May or may not be relevant but I've seen NOT having this set as a cause of focus and reloading HS issues for jtk users:

I only bring it up because I don't think this option was even created yet in RL when I wrote my Tutorial so it's not even in there.

This is one of those settings that if unset... things sorta still work!

Since you set active and default profiles here:

Games load and it may seem like everything is ok.

[Spawk]

How do i get pictures to show up without having to click them?

[diskmach]

1 hour ago, Spawk said:

How do i get pictures to show up without having to click them?

@Spawk

You should copy the "Direct Link" that has the .png suffix from Imgur.

[Yeuxkes]

1 hour ago, Spawk said:

How do i get pictures to show up without having to click them?

If you upload to imgur you can click the down arrow next to copy and then copy the BBCode for forums and paste that link. Another way is to just drag and drop the images in the attachments field when replying, don't forget to include them in the message tho.