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Good to see that someone has reactivating the community, after the disappearance of the Avar.

Keep going!!!:good:

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Its a shame he seems to have left without saying anything. I asked him to do a post but no reply yet. He may just be busy with his crazy job.

 

I'm all about the community, its what makes the hobby more enjoyable... The more people that help out the better for everyone. Personally I think this community is bigger than Hyperspin and the projects that flurished here have been an asset to the wider emulation scene (RocketLauncher, RetroFE, EmuMovies, THE ARTWORK, Brolly and co's database, dare I say it Simply bloddy Austin :)etc) Hyperspin has its place much like the big emulators. 

Although activity and Admin communication has slowed in recent months I understand how different this place must be to when it started.

Ramble over

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7 hours ago, griffin518 said:

Thanks for doing this! We've got a beautiful mess to clean up...

3000+ of a mess :)

If you find anything link to it in this thread

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Here, @thatman84 some official artwork

Sega Master System 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15349-sega-master-system-realistic-2d-box-art-hq/

SNES 3D Real (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15636-super-nintendo-real-3d-box-set/

APF MP 1000 3D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13692-apf-mp-1000-hq-3d-box-art/

Nintendo 64DD 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13400-nintendo-64dd-2d-covers/

RCA Studio II 2D Card (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13906-rca-studio-ii-hq-cart-art/

RCA Studio II 3D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13905-rca-studio-ii-hq-3d-box-art/

RCA Studio II 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13904-rca-studio-ii-hq-2d-box-art/

Sega Mega Drive Japan 3D Box (Not Official, because the effects in box, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11744-sega-mega-drive-japan-by-retrokenesis/

Sega Dreamcast 3D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13726-sega-dreamcast-3d-box-pack-20170514/

Amstrad GX-4000 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13712-amstrad-gx4000-hq-2d-box-art/

APF MP-1000 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13693-apf-mp-1000-hq-2d-box-art/

Sega Mega Drive 3D Box (Not verificated, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13519-sega-mega-drive-3d-box-pack-pal/

Sega Mega-CD (EUR) (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13489-sega-mega-cd-hq-box-art/

Epoch Pocket Computer 3D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13509-epoch-game-pocket-computer-3d-box-art/

Sega Dreamcast 3D Jewel Case (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/14881-official-sega-dreamcast-3d-jewel-case-art-hd/

NES 3D Box (Some are full official, but aren't, still a good set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15397-nintendo-entertainment-system-3d-box-art/

NES 2D Box (Some are full official, but aren't, still a good set) (Includes layes)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15396-nintendo-entertainment-system-2d-box-art/

Atari 5200 2D Box (Official) (Includes layes)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15330-atari-5200-2d-boxes/

Atari 5200 3D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15329-atari-5200-3d-boxes/

Atari 7800 3D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15158-atari-7800-3d-box-art/

Atari 7800 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/15157-atari-7800-2d-box-art/

Epoch Pocket Computer 2D Box (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13508-epoch-game-pocket-computer-2d-box-art/

Sony PSP 3D Box (Not official, some boxes have official layer others not, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13441-sony-psp-3d-boxart/

Nintendo GB 2D Box (Problablly official, but some boxes not match to original layers)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13414-nintendo-game-boy-boxes-2d/

Nintendo GB 3D Box (Problablly official, but some boxes not match to original layers)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13413-nintendo-game-boy-boxes-3d/

NEC PC-FX 2D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13409-nec-pc-fx-2d-box-art/

NINTENDO 64DD 3D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13399-nintendo-64dd-3d-box/

Commodore CDTV 2D (Pack) (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13279-commodore-cdtv-pack-2d-boxes-wheel/

NFDS 2D Boxes and Discs (Official)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13277-nintendo-famicom-disk-system-boxes-disks/

SEGA GAME GEAR 3D BOX (Some artworks don't match to the original layers)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13133-sega-game-gear-3d-box-art/

BANDAI WONDERSWAN 3D BOX  (The layer don't match to the original layers)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/12709-bandai-wonderswan-3d-box-pack/

COMMODORE 16-PLUS4 2D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/13123-commodore-16-plus4-box-art/

GBA 3D BOX (Reuped from emumovies)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/12601-3d-boxes-game-boy-advanced/

MAGNAVOX ODYSSEY 2 3D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/12312-magnavox-odyssey-2-3d-boxes/

MAGNAVOX ODYSSEY 2 2D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/12311-magnavox-odyssey-2-2d-boxes-full/

NINTENDO FAMICOM (Not verificated, but problably a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/12696-nintendo-famicom-box-art/

SEGA MEGA DRIVE (JAP) 3D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11944-sega-genesis-3d-japanese-box-pack/

SEGA 32X (Not Official, because the effects in box, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11904-sega-32x-by-retrokenesis/

NEO GEO POCKET COLOR 3D BOX (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11900-neo-geo-pocket-color-box-3d/

SEGA CD (Not Official, because the effects in box, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11880-sega-cd-by-retrokenesis/

SEGA MY CARD MARK III 3D BOX (Not Official, because the effects in box, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11879-sega-my-card-mark-iii-by-retrokenesis/

SEGA MY CARD 3D BOX (Not Official, because the effects in box, but still a solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11878-sega-my-card-by-retrokenesis/

SNES 3D BOX (Not official, layers don't match, solid set)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11816-snes-3d-box-art-complete-hl-14/

CASSIO PV-2000 (OFFICIAL)

http://hyperspin-fe.com/files/file/11476-casio-pv-2000/

So, this links were drawn from Box Packs and i looked all links from there, some files are obsolete. I tried looking through all the files to see if all the files were correct, but I may have passed something, so if you saw that I passed, let me know.

 

@thatman84 i really like to help you to with the transition to official media, but i don't know how.

P.S.: I don't know how to put spoiler tab:special:

Edit: Now i got!

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That is simply awesome @Accorsi greatly appreciated. Im just turning in after a very long day and 3 more long ones to go. :) i will be back at it after that. Or a little bit when I can.

Fyi spoiler tab is Screenshot_20171026-230120.png

Providing links is a great help

Then its approving artwork which maybe @THK could comment on for us or any media approvers reading.

The moving of files I will take care of.

Its gonna be a slow burner project this one

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Finally had some time tonight to get some sort of clean up going!!! :)

 

I have started in the Platinum Section because I thought if you have paid some cash it's kinda nice to be thought about first. (and its a smaller section ssshh ):newhere:

 

Anyway, I put a duster around the Cinematic Hyperspin, Supporter Themes & Hyperspin Builds Section.

Lemme know any thoughts please its just me in there at the moment dusting away.

 

I will get back to that list above asap! But Supporter section is a way to ease myself in.

 

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Great job on picking this up @thatman84 

Please can I request that you remove the sub sections for particular users. Whilst I am a big fan of recognition for excellent work and as cool as the names are it just seems a bit messy. I would rather have all box sets together rather some in Kondorito Korner and some in Accorsi's Awesomeness. Its just a bit irritating when looking for things.

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59 minutes ago, RLBradders26 said:

Great job on picking this up @thatman84 

Please can I request that you remove the sub sections for particular users. Whilst I am a big fan of recognition for excellent work and as cool as the names are it just seems a bit messy. I would rather have all box sets together rather some in Kondorito Korner and some in Accorsi's Awesomeness. Its just a bit irritating when looking for things.

I have been discussing this with people in the community. Although it is a little confusing for now some of those sections will stay.

Some will be removed... but unless a wave of Platinum user complain most will stay for now.

I'm not keen on making that call untill more people have commented. Theres plenty of other work to do while I wait!! :)

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I guess my thought is that the individual artist sections make it messy to find things. I think they should be removed.

Feel free to merge my files into any other future section. How about a new download category for bezels?

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4 hours ago, griffin518 said:

I guess my thought is that the individual artist sections make it messy to find things. I think they should be removed.

Feel free to merge my files into any other future section. How about a new download category for bezels?

Finnally decided on a small edit to that section.

I moved Aorins and Retrohumanoids sections to reflect their content. Thinking I could create named sections under the type of media they reflect untill more comments come in from the big boys :)

Also started reorganising the Upload section. Bezels will get a cat in there for now.

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219 files moved out of Upload Here to there relevent sub category.

@Mykillvee I know you have finished the mame gap fillers and I thank you for that, but if you do another project up them to the right place please my fingers hurt now! :)

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In the absense of Media Approvers I have continues splitting up the larger Upload Here sections. This should aid user navigation and ease the task of approving.

It may mess with peoples search habits......let me know any negative affects.

347 Main Menu Themes organised

Main Menu Themes have been split up.

I grouped them the best I could. Hopefully it makes sense and people use the categories to upload.

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How many media Approves are not active anymore? Surely the dev/admin team can check their last hit on the forum.
Also perhaps there could be a like button approves can put on new content submitted to show that its approved?

Or comment perhaps on un-approved submissions with critic on where/how to get it to official standards?

I would love to know personally if my submissions are upto par? Else where I should be looking to improve.

Granted I don't spend much time on each theme/item (5-10min usually) as I am focusing on PC Games which tend to have a lot of available media. (Which is nice as I am not the best artist by hand)

 

Personally I think what Hyperspin needs is to get its Audit/Download tool polished and going strong, its FTP repository linked somehow to the website so they are one or a clone of each other ... or start looking more into Download Packs for Systems that are complete or close to complete as possible.

The bulk of people want an out of the box experience these days with little setup time.

A perfect system would be one you install and using the current databases scans designated Drive(s)/Folder(s) for *Ahem* items and then allows you to download chosen media content.
Similar to what *ahem* Launchbox is doing but less.. cold and more forgiving in miss-matched item names using CRC and Fuzzy Logic to correct where it can.

Even scanning for current media and skipping where up to date/available.

Databases could have matching Item to Theme CRC connections if possible or use a fuzzy list to determine that you have the correct/upto-date media.

 

All that being said I was frustrated at first setting up Hyperspin (Thank god for Simply Austins Packs/Guides) however...

After a time it became almost a game in itself to get it setup perfect for me.

Also as I miss Avar but also want to see this FE Succeed as out of all it is still my Favorite I am willing to throw my hat in the ring to assist in auditing and getting things complete and ready for the new version.

I am fairly new on the scene but let me know if you want some help as you will find I am stupidly efficient at times.

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55 minutes ago, Bungles said:

Or comment perhaps on un-approved submissions with critic on where/how to get it to official standards?

This is how things used to be done in the various subforums. People would post theme mockups, wheels, etc. and approvers/creators would provide feedback on how to improve things and it would be uploaded only after that. The good art projects still adhere to that format and it's no accident that those guys are the OGs and talented newcomers with the end packages speaking for themselves. Then the decision was made to open the floodgates and let ppl upload whatever they want (which several media approvers I know objected to, rightfully so) which is where we are now.

I know several approvers have no interest in sorting through the hundreds/thousands of submissions for that reason. The art skill of the approvers is directly correlated to the quality of the resulting audit. If you have people that aren't great artists doing the approvals, you're not going to have great results and probably not much different from the situation it's in now. The only problem is there are so few artists of that caliber and most are busy with producing hq stuff or on break from doing so. I can't even say there are many newly promoted content creators that I think could uphold standards as browsing submissions by some after that mass promotion the quality of some just isn't there. I think the root cause is a pattern of putting trying to make everyone feel special (disregarding upload process, mass promotion, terrible organization of Plat section per user) above quality and ease of use.

So, I'm not sure there is a solution to the problem.

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(Best Russian Accent) I think you are right on the money there 47.

Going through some of the themes I have downloaded you can see there has been a phenomenal amount of effort, care and hard work put into them. Personally I am content with what I have produced and tried to contribute over my short time learning but I think its not even close to some of the designs put forth before me.

I would hope however with patience and practice my content will improve overtime as its all a new learning experience for me as I work in Support.

Perhaps its something @thatman84 can look to achieve with the clean up eventually is to create a section for public submissions (Non Content Creator) but as you said, the content grows probably faster than it can be sorted and graded. Also adding/looking into a Rating Star/Cherry/Whatever System over just a public like system might be viable? Also a plead to people to start looking into widescreen and future proofing themes/content if that's the direction the product itself is heading.

rating-clipart-5-Star_rating_system_PCAR

Unsure what direction the new HS version is heading might also be part of the problem. I personally would like some sort of re-assurance that current or future works will not become redundant in the future versions. If the Development team could start looking into release notes even in a section to Staff only with a simple NDA if needed.

Personally I think secrecy will only hinder this amazing FE from reaching its Top Place on the Market again as input from the people using the product usually gets the people what they want where possible.
 

 

 

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There used to be a 5 star rating system in place and comments have always been enabled I believe. Neither are really useful though. Not many people use the star ratings or commented other than "thanks" or some other generic comment. Comments can sometimes be useful for pointing out mistakes but star ratings are pretty much useless because in the end it's random users rating them, not people with the skills to assess the quality. Not to mention lots of people are happy to just have something regardless of quality so they mark it positively. You could probably go into the downloads section and find a bunch of badly cut wheels with thanks comments or likes or whatever.

Regarding dev communication, just give up that dream now because it will not happen. There's been no communication in the past 5 years from devs and it won't change. Mods and other veteran community members don't have any knowledge either. They want to keep things secret so they have to deal with the consequences of that choice. Thankfully, I realized 3 or so years ago that what little they did say was empty promises so I switched frontends and as many know LaunchBox has caused a pretty large exodus of HS members as well as other frontends.

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I will catch up next week. Currently knee deep in rumble at home working 8-22.00.

from what I read until there are some active media approvers it will just be me organising and sorting.

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Sad Faces.. I have tried other front ends but it feels like starting again in a new world and I don't do defeat very well.

I might as well just look at the current version as a "Final" and work from there improving my version where I can and contribute back what I can also. 

As you said "Its been done before" but we can hope.

 

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