thatman84

On 11/27/2016 at 5:25 PM, phantasy said:

@Metalzoic

I put in a ton of work to replicate what you did for .175 now for .179 to benefit the community.  I realized there was more to it than what's in my xml from the earlier post.  I could use your advice on one or two minor details... Here is my work flowchart copied from you:

- Start at: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/19vpff3f4x87yu4/AAB4u5ffSIweBRXOB9y1O974a/MAME 0.179?dl=0

- Begin with mame_no_casino_mahjong_mature_quiz_electro_utilities.xml  (I reworded your post here to match the file name at the link). This starting xml is a change for me as now I am leaving in the handful of PlayChoice games and eliminating Mature as this will cater to more end users (speculation only). I have a Mature.xml as a genre instead.

- Then I strip away nearly all the tabletop/boardgame stuff. (All Tabletop marked games removed except I left 'ataxx' and 'spot'- Thoughts?  Only one game was listed as board game which I removed)

- Then I strip out the Shogi Go stuff that's left over. (Removed anything marked Shougi but did not find Shogi or games with 'Go' in the title)

- Then I remove all the bartop games like Megatouch etc... (Got rid of anything Megatouch and Pit Boss- am I missing others?)

- Then I pull some of the crap protos and bootlegs.  (** I differ in that I LEFT THEM ALL IN- I loaded a few of each and find this subject too subjective without more info. I like Hard Drivin' anything so did not want to lose them yet)

- I fix the screwed up genre soccer game (Phulsof will jhave this fixed in 176) (I left untouched as this is ver 179 so should be fixed by now)

- I un-clone most of the good clones listed in this topic (I did EVERY one in this and checked against all old threads. My new additions I also uncloned are After Burner and Brix... and note 'ikari3nr' changed to 'ikari3u' to unclone)

- Unclone the 2P version of 4+P games (Please clarify: I did ALL in game dip-switches and F2 changes from your list, but are there any to edit in the xml?)

- Fix/unclone the 2 Zero Team games (Done, but note the dubious instruction 'You must unclone both Zero Team games because there actually is no parent'... does that also mean nzeroteama: New Zero Team (V33 SYSTEM TYPE_B hardware, China?) too or just 'New Zero Team (V33 SYSTEM TYPE_B hardware)' and 'Zero Team 2000'?

- Un-clone the 2 extra Neo Geo games  (No Change: already uncloned)

- I leave all the clones and simply filter them out in HyperHQ. That way I don't lose access to any of them if it turns out I want them. (Same Here) ...and I think that's it.

NON XML tasks but VERY good to do:

- After that I went through every single 4p game I listed and changed the settings or dip-switches so they play correctly 2P.

Then I split that cleaned DB into all the Manufacturer wheels I use, then I split them all out with genres.

***That ends the Metalzoic instructions, but my final additional step was to add ALL variants of 'Strider 2' (Clones left in to keep everything uniform- and will also let HyperHQ filter clones). Strider 2's awesomeness supersedes any 'non-working' status.

 

Other thoughts:

STRIDER 2 - I'm leaving this tagged as a 4 player game, because hitting tab to enter the controls lists it as 4 players but I never figured out why;  Strider 1 has 2pl alt mode, but has anyone ever seen any mode other than 1 player? That's for the MAME team to sort out anyway.

If I am leaving in Nintendo's PlayChoice titles, what about Sega's Mega-Touch games?  They have been listed as not-working for a while but I cannot figure out what is wrong with them other than that MAME says so; they seem to load and run just fine. Anyone?

This brings my earlier game count of 7609 down to 7308 (which is odd since I removed Mature AND many more games per Metalzoic making me think the number would be closer to your original 7001 so I may have missed some bar games, but the extras are likely the protos and bootlegs).

The attached xml should give Mame ver .179 users no_casino_mahjong_mature_quiz_electro_utilities (and obviously no Non-Working except Strider 2) plus Metalzoic's uncloning and trimming.

If anyone needs genre xmls I can provide them as well. Enjoy!

 

Mame.xml

@phulshof to elaborate I guess it would be and automatic way to acomplish the above method and the list in MetalZoics OP....now im not sure if its possible but I think a cut down mame xml of uncloned games would be a nice monthly addition to your awesome pack. Again it may only be achieved by the manual method. Just a thought

@phulshof

would you consider adding the Parents only version xml of this threads process to your pack?

Wow missed a week or so in here and all these discs are a feast for the eyes

Going to grab tbe dropbox fikes again in an hr or 2 as want to be up to date.

Is that good to go @ci2own ?

Good to hear from you Vaughan. And hopefully one day every game that needs a bezel has one! 

Its worth putting any you have up for the "greater good" someone sometime will pick them up and its one less for someone else to make

Its all good...its just the way of life....bezels are small fry in the actual world of emulation i guess so people won't spend to much time on it.

You know it does't harm to post up the images of your new bezels....it keeps the community spirit going 

Those bezels linked before are very good quality. John Merrit especially has outstanding talent in creating bezels. He only does MAME format now but not sure he has found a home for them yet

Just reading this and think theres a couple of points that are being missed

@Vaughan i believe this whole pack is a personal project of @Metalzoic made spedifically for his cab the way he likes it. Then released kindly by him for others to use.

The other point is storing all this stuff somewhere where a "team" can get at it.....that costs money

You said yourself that your bezel folder is 28gb....one internet Gigs are way more expensive than local.

We spoke before about finding a way to organise a central bezel spot but it was beyond my skill....I would still LOVE to do this and am still working on bezel stuff myself.. my bezel collection is a whole lot more than 28gb now and im very slowly sorting it to be unifor for use with retroarch.

Everyone wil allways want a different look to bezels and generaly the big name games with have more version for obviouse reasons.

Saying that it would be super to have a central place that can attempt to fill in the blanks and have them availiable for the 3 main programs. MAME, retroaech and rocketlauncher.

@phulshof has a rather decent MAMe collection availiable.

And on top of that a storage place for all source art and photo editing files would be a dream....its just knowone has taken control and built a place for it to happen that is not tied to anyone community

1 hour ago, newoski said:

To reiterate my previous post, this app is tangentially related to the clones worth playing list, in that it allows you to instantly and repeatedly convert a list of clones to parents // and or // remove parents

That's it. Use it as you will, or won't

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Dude it's a cool program. Thanks for making and sharing

So you finally got the frog out of your throat

No worries....probably easier to wait until you think you really are done

save some time

cool. So the 1st post links and single posts are best to keep up to date?

@ci2own where are you putting the updates? In the Dropbox link on 1st post?

i noticed the psd link is dead now

On 6/13/2017 at 9:06 PM, newoski said:

Hi Guys,

Video will follow, when I have time to create one. In the meantime...

The GUI is very basic and it includes an additional parameter -- Hidden Games List -- that I don't think many others will need to use:

 

To get started, define the following paramters:

Database Folder
- Path to a folder containing the MAME XML databases that you'd like to update

Parents to Remove:
- TXT file containing a list of MAME Parents you'd like to remove from all your XMLs in the Database Folder (see sample file for formatting)

Clones to Keep: 
- TXT file containing MAME Clones you'd like to keep, by converting them to Parents, on all XMLs in the Database Folder (see sample file for formatting)

Hidden Games List:

- IGNORE THIS PARAMETER. This is an optional parameter that will not be required by 99% of users. Ignore it for now. Explanation to included when I publish the app

After defining all paths, except for the Hidden Games List parater which should be left blank, click "Update Databases".

The app do two things, quickly:

1. Remove any games defined in the Parents to Remove list

2. Convert to parents -- by emptying the "clone of" field -- any games defined in the Clones to Keep list

The app stores your settings. After each update, simply do the following:

1. Download the latest XMLS

2. Put them into the Databases Folder

3. Run the app and click "Update Databases"

Give it a test and let me know if you have any questions. 

Download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/vizfbzcyv8vzo2p/MAME Parent Clone Database Updater.zip?dl=0

 

@vaderag

1 hour ago, ci2own said:

@thatman84 Is this what you wanted?

 

 

That is great. Thankyou

@Aorin may be interested for his retro tv shows!

3 hours ago, vaderag said:

I'm hoping that @phantasy can take this all and put together a guide as I'm a little bit confused right now! Isn't the hard part getting the lists in the first place?

@newoski i will take a look at the text files.

I must say vaderag is almost right...for someone like me without the indepth knowledge of the games the hard part is know what games should be in the text list and which shouldnt.

This thread is my go to guide for that and its becoming almost self sufficent...ehich is outstanding

3 hours ago, wallmachine said:

This one has a bit of an outline to it.

This going to how i play my gameboy games going forward! Love it

On 6/10/2017 at 8:58 PM, ci2own said:

Wonder if you could do a Libretro one to go with the kodi and plex one now they have a video player core.

Maybe based off this image

Download link is here

http://contentvisionaries.com/tv-classic-libretro.zip

Awesome im starting to get my mame setup in order this last week and planing on using a 184 set, but still running Metalzoics old xml as didnt have Phantasy's updated one to hand.

How do we go about creating the txt lists required? @newoski

To all creators of this set..1 more down

Joining the slow clap...and increasing the speed.

Top quality as always

Im of the opinion that EHG stuff probably just needs something fun around it but not to the fixed template. 

Those handheld are all different shapes and sizes

I had an issue with PPSSPP Gold recently. Not sure what changed but didnt play PSP for a monh or 2 and it stopped launching (invalid emulator)

The new exe line im using is 

 exe=org.ppsspp.ppssppgold/org.ppsspp.ppsspp.PpssppActivity

NO parameters

The 2nd "gold" has been removed from the exe command in the OP

@reznnate maybe you could edit 1st post idk my exe line needs confirming

Think he means sydtems that are listed in Hyperlist.

Started sorting these for GitHub and looking good on testing.

did you have a list on Credits at all @ci2own? If not I will try and scan back through the thread. I remember you mentioning some people and I know kondorito helped you out

handhelds look sweet btw. I tend to run mine in big screen as they don't look bad and I can see them from the sofa that way! Old eyes lol

That was an great insight. My respect for art dudes keeps increasing. 

I hope you stick around producing such quality. Its awesome