chriz99 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for the info about the pacdrive, which shaker motor will you use if you don't mind me asking? we are trying to use cheap bass shaker/bass pumper to emulate a pinball shaker instead of a real expensive one. lets see if this works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gstav Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 This is the greatest news for the cab people in a long time!! Are you in some kind of testing phase with maofwar? Thought of if some kind of standard configis going to be used or if you have to set up everything for yourself for each table? Do you think I will be good with just one PAC drive if I´m not going for the deluxe RGB flipper buttons? <--- this is me Cheers! this amazing project is currently under development by manofwar. the pacdrive can directly communicate with the pinball (pinmame) rom. so you can specify some matrix numbers (e.g. for lamps, swichtes, solenoids). for example: left flasher = output 10 on pacdrive or switch no. 39 = output 15 on pacdrive. every time the ball hits switch 39 the lamp, solenoid or shaker gets activated on pacdrive output 15... the same with the flasher... every time the left flasher is on, the same lamp is on pacdrive output 10 on. so you should be able to emulate the whole lamp, solenoid and switch matrix stay tuned, manofwar will release this masterpiece soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 hey gustav, I am testing it during the beta-phase here in my cabinet. It seems to be that only 1 central config file for all tables is necessary! so no table-editing marathon for my favorite setup (see the diagram, with rgb-leds) I need about 30 outputs => 2 pacdrives (2x16) the next days we are testing the 32output ledwiz board too. if it works, 1 board for everything should be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Share Posted October 11, 2010 the next days I will receive my ledwiz, if everything works 1 board is enough (due to 32 outputs instead 16 outputs pacdrive)... can't wait for the first tests Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 ledwiz arrived and works like a champ! brainstormed the last days with ext2k (thx roger!)... here are some new ideas, hope everything will work. - 3 rgb-led flasher (left, center, right) to emulate every color and viewing angle - 2 coldwhite "U" topper and "I" playfield strobes / stroboscope (e.g. for afm strobe multiball) - some more siemens contactors pace car 12v u-strobes little I-strobes idea for selfmade rgb-flasher with 13 / 7 rgbleds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbeef Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 this looks awesome i was thinking of the idea of putting the strobes into the cabs also for people who dont have the screen full width, So when you have a flasher effect light would leak of the side of the matte board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 16, 2010 Author Share Posted October 16, 2010 hey gbeef, everything is possible, you can place your components whereever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 17, 2010 Author Share Posted October 17, 2010 this looks awesome i was thinking of the idea of putting the strobes into the cabs also for people who dont have the screen full width, So when you have a flasher effect light would leak of the side of the matte board. maybe I can add 2 little "I"-strobes on the upper playfield-monitor (under backbox). ordered some more strobes to test it, lets see if it works... check my updated diagram above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Hi Chriz, This is amazing.. are you guys willing to put a complete part list needed for us overseas? without techical words lol is there anything i can pre order ahead? Ow yeah meaning those 12v siemens contactors. what exactly do they do? i tryed to find a correct dutch word for them but no luck of yet. Ok so i red trought the topic again and they emulate the flipper FF. Is that possible to run those on normal microswitches and is the jumper needed between the + and - on the relay? Man this is going to be amazing on my mini pin hopefully i got enough in the cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numiah Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 [dutch] Njay, ze noemen ze hier Industrieel relais. Hier te bestellen : http://www.elektro4000.de/ Hier extra uitleg over het gebruik en installatie : http://www.lunavegas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5382&sid=b6d384ef0a3aaaeb7485a80ba935147d Succes ! [/dutch] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 [dutch]Njay, ze noemen ze hier Industrieel relais. Hier te bestellen : http://www.elektro4000.de/ Hier extra uitleg over het gebruik en installatie : http://www.lunavegas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5382&sid=b6d384ef0a3aaaeb7485a80ba935147d Succes ! [/dutch] Thanks for the links, but i am still not clear about using a jumper wire between the + and - connections on the relais . could you pm me so we can continue in dutch? thanks i will order two relais as we speak can't wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Ok i think i got it i guess: 1. need 2 relais 2. need a 12 volt dc power supply with 10 amps like a phone charger? But i use microswitches instead of leaf switches is that ok? And do i need the install the diode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Ok i think i got it i guess:1. need 2 relais 2. need a 12 volt dc power supply with 10 amps like a phone charger? But i use microswitches instead of leaf switches is that ok? And do i need the install the diode? yes, you should buy an extra 12v dc power supply for the 2 relais. the diode is very important to eliminate "back-EMF". diode costs only 10 cent. with an ledwiz you can connect your relais directly to it. so you can connect your microswitch to your ipac and your siemens relais directly to the ledwiz (btw, theoretically there is no more need for an optocoupler to prevent the solenoid lag, we are testing it at the moment.) if you buy a ledwiz, be sure that you order the new version of the 32-output ledwiz (small chips, instead the big one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Cabeling then goes like this: Microswitch: Normal ipac cabeling like i have now Relais: + wire from the dc block to the relais Diode between the + and - on the relais - wire from the dc block to the ledwiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Something like this? DC Supply: http://www.trcelectronics.com/Phihong/psaa60w-120.shtml And diodes: http://www.elektronica-online.nl/content_details.php?id=3100 If understand ok you can connect the diode ends you can bend them? to the + and - ? Strobe lights: http://www.4yourcarshop.nl/verlichting_en_toebehoren/strobe_lampen/Antenne_-bullet-_zilver If i look at the picture how do you want to control them with which wires? And for the other lights on top what do you use? -------------------------------------------------- I will buy a ledwiz any eta on the completion of the project? so i can save up a bit ... maybe i can make a drawing for noobs like me how to connect it all without blowing my cab up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 go with a powersupply like that one: 150w 12.5A 12vdc, costs about 30 bucks diode is good, for wiring check the "siemens diagram" somewhere in this thread. if everything works well on the ledwiz-project, you can connect your siemens relais to the ledwiz controller and your microswitch to you ipac. no power wires to the microswitch. it's better to wait until the "ledwiz-project" is finished. after that you can buy all your needed parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Ok clear well Chris thank you for your time ! I will clear up my cabinet this weekend for the future relais on the lights on top gonna be sweet Thanks again and have a good weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 how about mounting these on top of the back box: for my mini pin only two http://www.lakesidepinballparts.com/minimarslight.jpg then using these for the lights: http://www.lakesidepinballparts.com/lightsocket.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 how about mounting these on top of the back box: for my mini pin only two http://www.lakesidepinballparts.com/minimarslight.jpg then using these for the lights: http://www.lakesidepinballparts.com/lightsocket.jpg we are testing 2 high-power RGBW leds right now. With these RGBW leds you can "emulate" every flasher color. plus should be the "perfect virtual pinball flasher" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Cabeling then goes like this:Microswitch: Normal ipac cabeling like i have now Relais: + wire from the dc block to the relais Diode between the + and - on the relais - wire from the dc block to the ledwiz check out the groovy game gear diagram for wiring: here is the full manual http://groovygamegear.com/PDF/LEDWIZv2_INSTALL.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 we are testing 2 high-power RGBW leds right now. With these RGBW leds you can "emulate" every flasher color. plus should be the "perfect virtual pinball flasher" This is going to cost sweet cash but it will be worth man this is so sweet. Maybe an idea to make a listing when your finished with a wire diagram final for us noobs ... sweet i can't wait thanks again chrizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Pretty damn cheap : http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power-LEDs-Cree/CREE-MC-E-Series/CREE-MC-E-RGBW-on-Star-PCB-LT-1573_120_133.html On the pic the Leds look big to me , so my question because you have the unit itself will the mini mars tops fit? http://www.lakesidepinballparts.com/minimarslight.jpg Lol im going wild on questions, how much sure is it the ledwiz will be used? i mean the dollar is at a good point with the euro so if i can order now it will be super ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriz99 Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Pretty damn cheap :http://www.led-tech.de/en/High-Power-LEDs-Cree/CREE-MC-E-Series/CREE-MC-E-RGBW-on-Star-PCB-LT-1573_120_133.html On the pic the Leds look big to me , so my question because you have the unit itself will the mini mars tops fit? http://www.lakesidepinballparts.com/minimarslight.jpg Lol im going wild on questions, how much sure is it the ledwiz will be used? i mean the dollar is at a good point with the euro so if i can order now it will be super ! Diameter of the RGBW leds is less than 2cm, so it will fit in the flasher tops. I think you can order your ledwiz (v2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbeef Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Oh man im like a kid in a candy store!... just waiting for you guys to release the code for this.. Thanks for all your hard work chris and E2K. I have those LED's Install into my Salt water fish tank. There insanely bright. i think the ones i got were high powered CREE X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njay Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Oh man im like a kid in a candy store!... just waiting for you guys to release the code for this.. Thanks for all your hard work chris and E2K. I have those LED's Install into my Salt water fish tank. There insanely bright. i think the ones i got were high powered CREE X yeah i feel the same way man ! can't wait for them to release this is going to be awesome on my mini cab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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