granter Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 So Here a question when i wire my flippers directly to the ipac they really suck!. The buttons will stutter when i push the button, Its almost like the flipper inst making a solid connection but when i run the flippers directly thru the contactors everything works perfectly. Except i get that delay your talking about. Idea how to fix the problem i have with the flippers to ipac? I had problems with my flippers using leaf switches as well. I ended up having to solder the wires to the connections of the leaf switches, I may not have had to do this if I had the proper crimp on connections but I couldn't seem to using the ones I had make a good connection. Also if you have a spring adjuster or leaf switch adjuster you can adjust these more easily, if not pliers may work Put a piece of white paper behind the connection to help you see it and get the gap as close as you can, there is a bit of a science to adjusting these. Clean the connection points as well with contact cleaner and they should work for you, mine were absolutely horrible until I adjusted them a couple of times but now are just like using a keyboard.
chriz99 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 Hey Chris, great cab, question about your flipper buttons, what LED lit ones are you using? I'm using transparent buttons with leaf springs currently. I suppose I could install some kind of lighting for them with LEDs.Wondering if you are using a ready made button solution or just lighting the transparent cabinet ones. Also, what does the lighting give you, does it just let you set the color when the game loads using the ledcontrol software, or do the ROMs actually have in game events that you can light these according to? I imagine it would be neat to have the secondary flippers light when they are active. I use RGB-LED modules for lightning my 4 flipperbuttons (to match the flipperbutton color of each dediacted pinball machine). It's just lightning without rom-controlled output. cheers chris [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] * taito egret 29 candy cabs * indy & star wars pachinkos 17" bartop with ledwiz rgbleds * 10" bubble bobble & galaga bartop * arm champs 2 check out hi-res backglasses * best vpin performance * ledwiz config and software
granter Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I use RGB-LED modules for lightning my 4 flipperbuttons (to match the flipperbutton color of each dediacted pinball machine). It's just lightning without rom-controlled output. Cool thanks for the info, so those are just transparent buttons with leaf switches probably like mine then, with those LED modules behind them? Hard to tell about the buttons from the pic, I get the LED part, but the buttons are they just leaf switches and translucent buttons?
chriz99 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 yes, I use transparent pinball buttons with original pinball leaf switches (for the right feeling). cheers chris [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] * taito egret 29 candy cabs * indy & star wars pachinkos 17" bartop with ledwiz rgbleds * 10" bubble bobble & galaga bartop * arm champs 2 check out hi-res backglasses * best vpin performance * ledwiz config and software
lettuce Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Damn im having trouble finding powerful resistors in stock anywhere. Would these be ok..... http://www.maplin.co.uk/10-watt-wirewound-resistor-2181 Not sure what it means by 'wirewound'? and i think there 22ohm??
shilmover Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I use these. They are not perfect as they are frosted, rather than transparent, but I really like the leaf button feel for the flippers (the one on the right): http://groovygamegear.com/webstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=73&products_id=238
granter Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Those look pretty cool, I like that you probably wouldn't have to adjust them as much as normal leaf springs or play around with the mounting.
granter Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 How critical do you guys figure having 2 flipper buttons is on each side? Are there a lot of games where you need that? Most of my real pinball machines are old 80s ones so I haven't heard of many games that use it.
chriz99 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 check out the first page of this thread. I have listed some tables that requires additional buttons... cheers chris [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] * taito egret 29 candy cabs * indy & star wars pachinkos 17" bartop with ledwiz rgbleds * 10" bubble bobble & galaga bartop * arm champs 2 check out hi-res backglasses * best vpin performance * ledwiz config and software
lettuce Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Damn im having trouble finding powerful resistors in stock anywhere. Would these be ok.....http://www.maplin.co.uk/10-watt-wirewound-resistor-2181 Not sure what it means by 'wirewound'? and i think there 22ohm?? Anyone?
hicks100 Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 maplins are not much good lettuce. I ended up using ebay, theres alot more choice on there. And re the buttons i used the Groovy Game Gear buttons also and they were good enough to include the new Pro-Leaf switches for the same as the true leafs. Not sure if there even on the site yet but they work a treat.
lettuce Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I thought of this chris what if you tried mounting LED's underneath the cab you could mount like 6 underneath. There so bright they would shine out the sides. Myabe make it feel like a real pin???If i go with crees ill do a test underneath my cab with a few up top. If they are that blinding (which are) then placing them underneath might work out nicely. beef, did you ever get around to trying mounting the lights on the underside of the cab?? I have ordered 5 cree's and am thinking of having 3 on the top of the backbox like normal and then 2 under the main body of the cab? If im using the led-wiz this is the method i need to use to wire up the solenoids??...
Guest gstav Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 All the buttons goes to the iPac controller. The leds and contactors are controlled through the Ledwiz. Chriz helped me so I did a simple scheme for it. Contactor on picture is 24v, but should of course be 12V. (RGB Leds used is cheap RGB leds without the sepparte white from ebay, not CREEs)
lettuce Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Cheers gstav!!!! One question for the 'Bank Voltage select' terminal, how would you go about connecting all the wires to this one screw terminal, as if you have 7 contactors thats 7 wires going to 1 screw terminal just for the contactors, plus the positive sides of the cree's aswell??
mameman Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Cheers gstav!!!!One question for the 'Bank Voltage select' terminal, how would you go about connecting all the wires to this one screw terminal, as if you have 7 contactors thats 7 wires going to 1 screw terminal just for the contactors, plus the positive sides of the cree's aswell?? good old chock block!! PM me for any custom CNC needs. Find me on Facebook.. Xtreme Pinball or www.xtremepinball.com Ipad pinball cabinet iFlipper Here: See the Doctor Who build Here.... / See the Tron build Here.... / See the BattleStar Galactica build Here.... See the Big Bang Bar build Here.... / See the Twilight Zone build Here.... CNC Work Here.....
Guest gstav Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 Cheers gstav!!!!One question for the 'Bank Voltage select' terminal, how would you go about connecting all the wires to this one screw terminal, as if you have 7 contactors thats 7 wires going to 1 screw terminal just for the contactors, plus the positive sides of the cree's aswell?? Yeah. thats a problem. As it´s possible to daisychain them I got the tip from mr. Chriz to use the WAGO nuts. I bought the 5 hole version. Awesome! Have used around 8 of them allready!
hicks100 Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 i havnt wired me crees up yet (still waiting for a new soldering iron to arrive) but judging by the videos on here so far, i would imagine that there way to bright to put a couple under the playfield.
Guest gstav Posted January 15, 2011 Posted January 15, 2011 I have the 3W RGB leds from china. Crappy compared to the crees but cheap and not as bright which works perfect for under glass mounting! Think you could use the crees too if you used resistors with a higher resistance.
shilmover Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Quick question... What key do you guys have the 'Extra' ball button wired to? I thought it was '2', but that does not seem to work (at least in Indy).
Liepe Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 If I recall correctly Indy Jones uses the left Ctrl key for Buy-In.
Guest gstav Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 Maybe you can change in the script so Indy uses the '2' button for extra ball. Works for other tables. Have to try when I get back from work. Hardly never use buy in. Think it´s more for the beginners who need another ball. But I like the flashing button after the game though! heloo Ledwiz!
shilmover Posted January 16, 2011 Posted January 16, 2011 I will try that. The other option is to wire both the '2' and 'left ctrl' button together. I do use left-ctrl in HyperPin though...
chriz99 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Posted January 16, 2011 hmm, i think my indy uses "3" for extraball buyin, lol cheers chris [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] * taito egret 29 candy cabs * indy & star wars pachinkos 17" bartop with ledwiz rgbleds * 10" bubble bobble & galaga bartop * arm champs 2 check out hi-res backglasses * best vpin performance * ledwiz config and software
chriz99 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Posted January 16, 2011 hey barry, plz post the lines that have to be edited cheers chris [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] * taito egret 29 candy cabs * indy & star wars pachinkos 17" bartop with ledwiz rgbleds * 10" bubble bobble & galaga bartop * arm champs 2 check out hi-res backglasses * best vpin performance * ledwiz config and software
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