wesfranks Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Metal, don't fall for the old "what tricks do you have" trick!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatman84 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 He must have "some tricks up his sleeve" to counteract that PS I mame is my Achilles heal. I understand changing the xml but not sure on other steps. Guessing I set parents only in HyperHQ anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesfranks Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 He must have "some tricks up his sleeve" to counteract that PS I mame is my Achilles heal. I understand changing the xml but not sure on other steps. Guessing I set parents only in HyperHQ anything else? I'll let Metalzoic chime in for a better tutorial (if he chooses), but for me when I edit the MAME XML in Don's HyperSpin Tools-Filter HyperLists, one of the things I edit out is the clones, so no need to check "Parents Only" in HyperHQ. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatman84 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Thanks I'll have a play about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatman84 Posted July 16, 2016 Share Posted July 16, 2016 Metalzoic makes a few adjustments to one of phulshof's 300000000 different filtered mame xmls which are updated with each version. You can find the xmls in post 11 and what Metal does in post 15 here. Thanks I come from there to here. It's the "other little clean ups" bit that makes really want metal to upload one of his versions to the database section of upload here. Official request Metalzoic. If you get a chance . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicelee Posted July 17, 2016 Share Posted July 17, 2016 i would also like a copy of the xml, if possible .thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalzoic Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 Ha! Yeah. I start with Phulsofs no Mature, No Casino, No utilities, No electromechanical, no mahjong, no quiz Then I strip away the rest of the casino & mahjong games still hidden. Then I strip away nearly all the tabletop/boardgame stuff. Then I strip out the Shogi Go stuff that's left over. Then I remove all the bartop games like Megatouch etc... Then I pull some of the crap protos and bootlegs. I fix the screwed up genre soccer game (Phulsof will jhave this fixed in 176) I un-clone most of the good clones listed in this topic Unclone the 2P version of 4+P games Fix/unclone the 2 Zero Team games Un-clone the 2 extra Neo Geo games I leave all the clones and simply filter them out in HyperHQ. That way I don't lose access to any of them if it turns out I want them. ...and I think that's it. After that I went through every single 4p game I listed and changed the settings or dipswitches so they play correctly 2P. Then I split that cleaned DB into all the Manufacturer wheels I use, then I split them all out with genres. So nothing special really. Here's my current database if you want. MAME.xml 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatman84 Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Wicked, just to double check. What version is this? 0.175? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalzoic Posted July 18, 2016 Author Share Posted July 18, 2016 175 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicelee Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 nothing special ,lol thanks alot mate , you are in the zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newoski Posted August 9, 2016 Share Posted August 9, 2016 exactly, I'm adding this as a genre... Attack of the clones I see what you did there 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newoski Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 My MAME XML has a lot of crazy customizations, which makes updating a really cumbersome process. To solve this once and for all, I just worked with a developer on Upwork.com to create a simple app that will take all the headache out of maintaining parent / clone customizations like this. The app is pretty simple. It takes an input list of Parent roms that you'd like to remove and an input list of the Clones that you'd like to convert to Parents. Then it goes through and updates ALL your databases, including Genres etc. I'm still working the kinks out, but if anyone would like to test before I share it with the community, shoot me a PM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalzoic Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 My MAME XML has a lot of crazy customizations, which makes updating a really cumbersome process. To solve this once and for all, I just worked with a developer on Upwork.com to create a simple app that will take all the headache out of maintaining parent / clone customizations like this. The app is pretty simple. It takes an input list of Parent roms that you'd like to remove and an input list of the Clones that you'd like to convert to Parents. Then it goes through and updates ALL your databases, including Genres etc. I'm still working the kinks out, but if anyone would like to test before I share it with the community, shoot me a PM. That sounds cool. I'd definitely be interested in something like that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja2bceen Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Yep. What I have been doing is I copy all customizations as I make them in a single xml and act like its a genre but I don't include them as a genre. Then when I update I just paste the info from the xml into the main one and make a genre for attack of the clones that aren't really labeled clones but look like parent if that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalzoic Posted September 15, 2016 Author Share Posted September 15, 2016 Pulling this up from the depths so people can find it. If anyone knows of any games that should be added/altered please chime in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGriffon Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Good information in this thread, thanks. It should really be stickied. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcrowley30 Posted September 29, 2016 Share Posted September 29, 2016 https://github.com/superjamie/lazyweb/wiki/MAME-Clones-Worth-Playing So I was looking through trying to find others and came across your exact list somewhere else.... It says references at the bottom, but it's the entire list with the comments! Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalzoic Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 https://github.com/superjamie/lazyweb/wiki/MAME-Clones-Worth-Playing So I was looking through trying to find others and came across your exact list somewhere else.... It says references at the bottom, but it's the entire list with the comments! Wow... Ha! That's fine, he linked to this topic at the bottom and I got most of the info in here on the 2/4 player games from a post on a MAME site and the original topic like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalzoic Posted November 5, 2016 Author Share Posted November 5, 2016 Someone reminded me I made this thread so I thought I'd bump it up for others to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasy Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Hey guys, I updated MAME to ver .179 and saw that Metalzoic's custom 7001 title xml for ver 175 left me with about 39 red titles in RL. I found about the same if I started from scratch with the dropbox semi official .179 files/filters. So I went through everything and am happy to share my findings and new files: I created a new MAME xml for current ver .179 starting with: mame_no_casino_mahjong_quiz_electro_utilities_playchoice.xml [keeping the mature games] -NON WORKING is automatic filtered out in these xmls -MECHANICAL is mostly if not ALL automatically removed under 'electromechanical' Leaving IN clones (I filter out Clones in HyperHQ) Metalzoic's last xml for ver .175 was 7001 titles, while my ver .179 has 7609 (the 600+ game count difference is almost 100% comprised of the mature games which I leave in) Then I incorporated all of the clones from the top of this thread (the good clones are uncloned). Two additions you may or may not wish to cut: - Finally I also UNCLONED After Burner as I consider parts 1 and 2 two different games. - I added the three 'Strider 2' titles as though it is marked as NON-WORKING, I play it perfectly (it may crash late in the game).. life without Strider 2 is no life for me. Notes: - Though Mahjong games are excluded, happily for me by default Shanghai games are left in which I was a fan of on Sega Master System so I'm happy for the arcade ports. - The two Neo Geo titles mentioned are included by default and I did not need to add them. Now RL shows a complete .179 set as missing 41 titles, but they should work fine in HS regardless as they are either built in to a parent like 'breakout' or clones that will be filtered out anyway. This is totally unofficial so my xml is available by PM only. right here and right now. ;) Mame.xml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja2bceen Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Please at least post to the thread so we don't have to do it all through pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THK Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Yes, not everything has to be Official..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatman84 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 No reason not to share @phantasy just make your thread intro the same as the post above. He'll none of my stuff is close to official ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantasy Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 Ok, ok - my arm is officially twisted. I included it now in the post above. I was just being careful not to post too many xmls to confuse the scene. Please do let me know how you like it and if you agree with the choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THK Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 1 hour ago, phantasy said: Ok, ok - my arm is officially twisted. I included it now in the post above. I was just being careful not to post too many xmls to confuse the scene. Please do let me know how you like it and if you agree with the choices. Have you seen ppl around here and on other sites talking about HS? They all seem to be confused to some point xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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