Taito Type X and Hyperlaunch 3.0

[langersld]

I just wanted to get clarification that Taito Type X is working fine in the New RocketLauncher...

In the PC Launcher.ini...I am pointing the script to the bat files

eg:

[super Street Fighter IV]

Application=C:\Hyperspin\Games\Taito Type X\Super Street Fighter IV\Super Street Fighter IV.bat

AppWaitExe=game.exe

I seem to be getting an issue where the game starts fine but after 20 seconds closes and the Hyperlaunch "now loading page appears"

Any help appreciated

[Trnzaddict]

Use Arcade PC loader for Raiden iv and frontend restore with click.

If a launch or correct exit Fails for Raiden IV you will get nothing but I/O errors every time you try to relaunch it.

Restarting your pc is the only way to reset it.

If you use APC loader it launches and closes correctly every time it gets launched provides you've mapped your exit key in the config menu.

You are asking for a world of premature grey hairs if you try to launch it and exit with dxwnd. It may work one time and then the next crash...then you gotta restart your PC. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

[Deadly]

Use Arcade PC loader for Raiden iv and frontend restore with click.

If a launch or correct exit Fails for Raiden IV you will get nothing but I/O errors every time you try to relaunch it.

Restarting your pc is the only way to reset it.

If you use APC loader it launches and closes correctly every time it gets launched provides you've mapped your exit key in the config menu.

You are asking for a world of premature grey hairs if you try to launch it and exit with dxwnd. It may work one time and then the next crash...then you gotta restart your PC. KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Not to disagree with you here, but IMHO the real problem with TTX games is too plentiful to have a bullet point text book instruction manual. More of a manual with a missing trouble shooting FAQ at the end of it. What works on one persons machine may/may not work on anothers. I for one use Dxwnd with absolutely no issues. I also have never had Raiden IV require a reboot. I have tried to crash that sucker and it never happens. That alone goes against everything I've read about that game. It was also easy to get to work which also goes against the grain.

I also reported a handful of games that required adding compatibility settings to the EXE's because the games start and play fine until you get to where you finish level 1. They would crash without the changed settings. Homura and Shikigami No Shiro being two of them. (Undocumented)

KOFMIA and Otomedius will NOT play on my standard 800x600 resolution (Undocumented)

Some games resolutions are affected by using the .bat file to launch a game VS using the launcher created by ArcadePC Loader. Maybe this affects 4:3 monitors - I dunno. (Undocumented)

I also get the feeling I'm one of the few that uses an IPAC with standard programmed settings as well as actually utilizes 2 players. Why? Because no one has mentioned that BlazBlue Continuum Shift on an IPAC will PAUSE when you press P1 button 2 which happens to be L-ALT. I have had to use keymapper to map this key to another key and change the bindings file to match it. This is the ONLY TTX game that does this. (undocumented)

Player 2's standard layout conflicts with Hyperlaunchs force exit keys.

If a person tries to use Howard Castros AH3 wrapper it works perfectly outside of HS - but if you run it with Hyperspin then some keys don't work. The only file that works properly with AH3 is the AH30.EXE. (Undocumented)

Gigapig has mentioned issues with controls - periodically I've experienced control programming not sticking as well. Deleting the file/contents of the .bin fixes it (not documented)

We as a group have established the two main files. Dxwnd.ini and Taito Type X.ini. These two files will suit "most" people. Hell, it gets everyone at least 80% there. I am not aware that these items have been added to the standard Hyperlaunch package which is a shame. This would get so many people so much closer right out of the gate.

We've all been through hell and back on these fecking games. The current Wiki needs some additions and I hope the info found herein is useful for the keeper of the wiki. I feel damn near everything a person might endure is found within this thread.

[TechnoFreek]

Lots of great info there guys. Before I launch into any of it let me just explain where I am now.

I have a hyperspin and hyperlaunch setup on my main rig. This is a test environment which I then transfer to my mame pc which is sitting inside my candy cab. I am using a jpac with standard programming and ill really dont want to have to change this programming as it works fine with all my other wheels and emulators.

I think the issue lies with dxwnd as from what I have seen so far, other games that dont use dxwnd exit just fine. I can use escape and dont have to have restore frontend and click enabled either.

As I test I will try the games that freeze without dxwnd. Granted they wont rotate but if they dont freeze on exit at least I will limited down the problem.

Thoughts?!

[gigapig]

I've had the same issues with having to left click to bring back focus (very frustrating as it was the last thing to be fixed) at the time.

I was using Pinnacle Profiler as my keymapper (unsupported by Hyperlaunch)

Now all my troubles were fixed by either moving over to xpadder and setting the exit emulator key properly, or using different exe's for the problem games. Not sure which.

AH3 was a big problem but now I use the xb_loader which gives it an exit button, now no more problems.

Not sure how all that works for you guys using I-pac etc.

Technofreek, pick a game and work on it till it either works or you've just spent to much time on it. Then move on.

[TechnoFreek]

I'm going to take a break for those games that freeze on exit. Wrecking my head. Want to try get the others up and running and tested.

So the first game I encounter an issue with is King of Fighters 98. It loads and plays just fine but when I exit I get the below message. Any ideas guys?

[Deadly]

Fade title most likely not set or incorrect

[TechnoFreek]

The fade title is set at KOF98 as per previous threads

[King of Fighters '98, The Ultimate Match]

Application=..\Emulators\Taito Type X\Games\King of Fighters '98, The Ultimate Match\KOF98UM_Launcher.exe

AppWaitExe=kof98um.bat

FadeTitle=Kof98

Edit: Apologies. It was the fade title. I had KoF98 instead of Kof98. Stoopid capital "F"!

[majorspawn]

I've had the same issues with having to left click to bring back focus (very frustrating as it was the last thing to be fixed) at the time.

I was using Pinnacle Profiler as my keymapper (unsupported by Hyperlaunch)

Now all my troubles were fixed by either moving over to xpadder and setting the exit emulator key properly, or using different exe's for the problem games. Not sure which.

AH3 was a big problem but now I use the xb_loader which gives it an exit button, now no more problems.

Not sure how all that works for you guys using I-pac etc.

Technofreek, pick a game and work on it till it either works or you've just spent to much time on it. Then move on.

using ipac with event ghost to bring back focus. Pointing to exe to enable blutooth as post exit to bypass Dolphin conflict as per my thread on the forum. Everything works just dandy!

[Deadly]

At what point do we all agree losing focus is an issue ?

It gets tough to get a show of hands because someone has found a "work around" but this doesn't address the actual problem. In other words - what is wrong with Hyperlaunch? Or maybe there's a simple change in HL that all of us are missing? Maybe event ghost needs to become the standard? I dunno ..... just looking at all angles here.

Only one way to find out. Djvj doesn't know anything is wrong unless he experiences it himself or is told about it.

I see this very much like Windows 8.1 having NATIVE support to launch to desktop VS using a third party application to accomplish the same feat. Why use a 3rd party tool that provides the exact same benefit and possibly introduces other issues if you don't have to?

[gigapig]

Not returning focus is an issue, because the experience is no longer seamless, you have to grab a mouse to return focus; and for people with cabs that must be a real pain.

So FWIW, I did use Event Ghost as soon as Boomslangz came to our aid. But again since moving to xpadder or finding new exe's/loaders, I don't use it any more.

So what do you I/J-pac guys use as an exit key?

2 problem games for exit are RIV and AH3.

With RIV I can use the games exit key, (set to 0) or the Exit emulator key I have set in HLHQ which is C + 1 with a 3 second delay.

AH3 the games exit key is again 0 but the exit emulator key combo does not work.

The exit method for both is WinClose Application.

Whats everyone else using for these 2 games?

[majorspawn]

Not returning focus is an issue, because the experience is no longer seamless, you have to grab a mouse to return focus; and for people with cabs that must be a real pain.

So FWIW, I did use Event Ghost as soon as Boomslangz came to our aid. But again since moving to xpadder or finding new exe's/loaders, I don't use it any more.

So what do you I/J-pac guys use as an exit key?

2 problem games for exit are RIV and AH3.

With RIV I can use the games exit key, (set to 0) or the Exit emulator key I have set in HLHQ which is C + 1 with a 3 second delay.

AH3 the games exit key is again 0 but the exit emulator key combo does not work.

The exit method for both is WinClose Application.

Whats everyone else using for these 2 games?

Im using ESC to exit with WinClose Application, but i lose focus if I dont use EventGhost, the games that are effected for me are both raiden games and SSEOD, all others work fine and don't lose focus at all.

[Deadly]

Figured out what causes the loss of focus and freezing. It was all user induced - meaning me. I'll explain in a bit.

Again I stress everything TTX related tends to be hit and miss but I just tested all 5 vertical games which all suffered from the screen freeze/loss of focus.

Keep in mind I SOLELY use Dxwnd.

First of all if you have set WINDOWS to automatically hide the task bar UNDO IT!

Open HyperlaunchHQ

Click Taito Type X

Main Menu tab

Desktop settings - Hide Taskbar TRUE

Set all the other Desktop Settings to false

Close HyperlaunchHQ

Launch Hyperspin

Try any of the 5 vertical games and they should open and close fine.

So I tried EVERY possible combination of settings including enabling/disabling the windows taskbar VIA taskbar/properties.

Interestingly enough, Gigawing exited perfectly fine with with or without HIDE TASKBAR enabled/disabled as long as the taskbar was set NOT to autohide.

The others would lose focus.

The combination of using the HLHQ hide taskbar set to true and windows taskbar set to NOT AUTOHIDE allowed ALL games to exit fine.

Now another snafu is if HIDE CURSOR was set to TRUE, upon game exit .... left clicking didn't restore HS. This is what is referred to as game freeze. I had to alt+tab twice to get HS focused.

I suppose I should mention I have ESC set as my exit key and RESTORE FRONT END ON EXIT set for Restore and Click.

So there ya go. I'd like to hear some reports back.

[TechnoFreek]

Great work deadly. I will try that tonight. Fingers crossed.

[brolly]

Now another snafu is if HIDE CURSOR was set to TRUE, upon game exit .... left clicking didn't restore HS. This is what is referred to as game freeze. I had to alt+tab twice to get HS focused.

You might want to report this in the HL forum, I'm guessing the mouse cursor is still hidden when the left click is done and therefore nothing will happen, this will probably need to be done the other way around.

[TechnoFreek]

Right, tried that deadly. Assuming I've understood and made the settings correctly, Hyperspin completely freezes up now and left click does nothing. I have to alt tab to get HS to kick back in.

[Deadly]

Damn. Why am I not surprised *sarcasm*. Also why I keep preaching TTX reacts differently between systems. Frustrating for sure.

Well here is my settings.

The only other thing that "might" be different from your setup is I have Fade In enabled and Fade Out out disabled.

[TechnoFreek]

Tried fade in and out. Just the enable settings. No more.

Still freezing

[gigapig]

So you fellas have this set to esc, right?

[TechnoFreek]

yup

[langersld]

Sorry to sound like Im repeating myself....

Techno try this tute for eventghost....at least until there is a more suitable solution.....

it has fixed the issue for many of us that have banged our heads against the wall with Taito type x....

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?26741-Taito-Type-X-and-Hyperlaunch-3-0&p=259531&viewfull=1#post259531

[gigapig]

Sorry to sound like Im repeating myself....

Techno try this tute for eventghost....at least until there is a more suitable solution.....

it has fixed the issue for many of us that have banged our heads against the wall with Taito type x....

http://www.hyperspin-fe.com/forum/showthread.php?26741-Taito-Type-X-and-Hyperlaunch-3-0&p=259531&viewfull=1#post259531

I think you better start looking for an exorcist.

That was my next suggestion Leo.

[langersld]

I think you better start looking for an exorcist.

LOL... I thought I wasn't feeling myself this morning

[gigapig]

LOL... I thought I wasn't feeling myself this morning

Who were you feeling, this morning? Out on the tiles again;)

[Deadly]

Tried fade in and out. Just the enable settings. No more.

Still freezing

I wouldn't imagine this would cause anything, but go to run and type msconfig

Startup tab - disable all.

Click Apply/OK and reboot. Expect a message to popup when it reboots

Try Hyperspin again and see if the issue persists.

I'm really sorry my friend I am simply out of ideas. What I posted works perfectly for me. I almost feel obligated to post a damn video to prove it lol. I am on Windows 8.1. I can't imagine what would be different between 7 and 8.1? I also use an Nvidia card - not that I think it matters in this case.

Time to go the other route people are mentioning I guess. I am not the type to give up - but if what I posted above doesn't work then I have to raise my white flag.

[Parsec]

OK all you Taito Type Xperts,

I have one that's been bothering me for awhile and want to try and tackle it again. Tetris the Grand Master.

No matter what I've tried it's always displayed expanded and I can't see the entire screen. When the game launches it changes the resolution to 640 x 480. This happens in or out of Hyperspin. This is what I see:

They only way I can play the game is to alt-tab to the desktop and change the resolution. Changing the resolution to 800 x 600 is still to small. The next option I have is 1024 x 768 which is a little to high and show a portion of the desktop but I guess I could live with it.

I've done quite a bit of searching but haven't seen anyone else who's having this issue. I don't have the issue with any of the other type x games. This was happening when I had my ATI card and persists with my new Nvidia card so I don't think that's the issue. I've tried downloading the game from several different locations but Tetris displays expanded for me. I have all my taito games running with Pclauncher and not DXwind.

What do you think would be the best way to tackle this one? A post launch call to change the resolution? Some event ghost magic?